How much error can you handle?

View Poll Results: How much daily error can you handle? (Mechanicals)

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  • HAQ all the way baby, mechanicals suck

    3 4.48%
  • Superlative -2/+2

    5 7.46%
  • Omega METAS 0/+5

    2 2.99%
  • COSC -4/+6

    24 35.82%
  • ~20s is cool

    23 34.33%
  • I can live with ~40s

    5 7.46%
  • Sure what's a minute in a day?

    5 7.46%
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    How much error can you handle?

    It's generally acknowledged that most of us on the forum prefer mechanical over quartz for reasons discussed and explored in great detail on other threads. Typically reasons of perceived complexity; all those tiny assembled parts working in harmony, romance and a connection with something 'craftsmanly' and with a noble heritage.

    We all recognise the general inferiority of mechanical movements in terms of timekeeping accuracy; we accept that our $,000 watches aren't going to be quite as good at their basic timekeeping function as a $20 quartz and we're happy to live with that. We sacrifice outright accuracy for all the other tangible and intangible benefits that we see in a mechanical.

    I have 3 mechanicals; An Omega Plant Ocean with the 8900 movement that is a fairly consistent ~+1.5s/day; a SpeedyPro which amazes me with a similar performance; and a Mühle Glashutte Teutonia II which is ~+7s. The two Omega's are, to my mind, excellently accurate and clearly within any of the recognised accuracy parameters (COSC etc.). The Mühle with its modified Sellita is at the upper end of my accuracy comfort zone. I think more than 10s out in a day (excepting real vintage pieces) would feel like real underperformance to me. 10s a day would be more than a minute out in a week and, while it might be a bit pedantic, I feel if my watch is showing the wrong minute then it's not really telling me the time properly.

    I've just found myself on the HELM website looking at some watches after following another thread and they're pretty nice. I like the Vanatu but reading over the spec I noticed the accuracy: "-20 ~ +40 seconds per day". If I'm doing my sums right that's potentially -2 mins 20s or +6 mins 40s in a week. I realise that the Vanatu is a $275 unit so I wouldn't expect the performance to be COSC but that level of inaccuracy would drive my OCD over the edge in half a day! I'm not knocking the watch per se as we all pay our money and make our choice and we'll all have different priorities and values; it's just that that error potential would rule it out for me.

    Made me wonder, how important is this to others? What's your accuracy 'tipping point'?
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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    If it was >5s off a day, I would flip it.
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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    I can tolerate +/- 10 seconds per day, past that though if I cant get it regulated then I would flip it.

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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    Those specs are ranges and not coordinates/points because they are not accurate - they are ideas. Companies use them to market their wares (within COSC specs) or use them to minimize performance/accuracy issues (Seiko's 7s26 is about +/- 200secs daily...obviously I'm exaggerating).

    The question for me, is not how much deviation can I handle, but how that deviation affects my day. I still use a watch to tell time and date. I have yet to see any amount of "normal" deviation that adversely affects my day. Hence, I can handle Seiko's 7s26 movement with its daily +/- 300secs.

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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    I'm not a timing freak but I guess I would prefer my watches to run within COSC.

    It actually annoys me more to know my watch is way off than it being way off, if that makes any sense.
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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    Up to +10, +15 is fine by me. - is a bit tighter, because it becomes more inconvenient to "fix", so approx. -5 or so.

    It's actually also cost-agnostic for me... I don't really care if I paid £100 or £1000 for it - if it's within the limit, it's OK for daily wearing, if not, then it isn't...
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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    Big jump in the choices from +6 to~20

    How about a +10 choice?

    Have much less tolerance for slow watches. A fast watch is ok.

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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    I could live with +/-10, but would prefer COSC.
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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    Don't get into a twist over accuracy ratings. Movements typically rate themselves conservatively so that under worst possible conditions, they'll still be performing within rating.
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    Re: How much error can you handle?

    Fair comment yankeexpress, I wanted the choices to give enough choice without turning it into a huge list. You're right that a 10s would have made sense but I'm not seeing any way to edit the poll now.
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