Ok so I've been what I consider a WUS for about a year now. I've started a small, modest yet respectable collection of affordable watches. My collection, to me, is pretty impressive considering my youth (18 years old). I have University coming up and I already have money set aside for that and I have a stream of income allowing me to save as well spend towards my watch hobby. I really like the look of the black dial, no date submariner. I like the that it's a watch that is suitable for almost every occasion. I want to know, for future reference and saving purposes, what is the absolute cheapest I could get a black, no-date submariner for? I'd be willing to go used. I just really want this watch, it is certainly not my grail but it has grown on me tremendously and i think it would be an unbeatable watch for me to have forever. Even if it took three or four years of saving, It would make a great graduation present to myself.