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    Longines Flagship Heritage Info

    Hello, I am new to this forum. I have found a lot of useful info in this forum that helped me to choose my new watch so I though I would contribute some. I purchased the Longines Flagship Heritage from an authorized retailer last week. I have been an owner of 4 fine swiss watches all from authorized dealers in the last 8 years. So I speak with some experience in quality time pieces. My longines since day one is keeping an impressive accuracy of plus or minus .25 seconds per day based on www.timeanddate.com . I contacted longines by email yesterday to inquire about the movement used in the longines. The movement is Longines Calibre L615 which is obviously stated on their website. The info that the longines rep gave me is: [First of all I want to thank you for your interest for Longines.
    Your Longines timepiece is equipped with caliber L615.
    We are pleased to inform you that this movement is based on ETA Elaboré with a power reserve of 42 hours and is later decorated and adjusted in relation to our technical specifications.] and in a follow up email: The accuracy of this movement is 0/ +10 seconds per day. I hope this info will help anyone in the market for a new watch as I could not verify the grade of movement prior to this email. The other watches I have owned or do own are: Omega seamaster 300m, omega seamaster 300m Chrono, tissot le locle, all automatic, both of the omegas certified chronometers. I had never heard of longines until last month. I was in the market for a more dressy type watch than the sporty omegas. I ended up purchasing tissot le locle automatic in white with metal band. Within a few days I quickly became aware I was not satisfied with the finish and fit of my tissot. The crown was too large and would dig into my wrist, and also would pop out the date adjust every once in a while. Plus, the lugs were very sharp on the back of the case which did not help with comfort. I could still wear the watch, but not very happily. On the plus side, the tissot is keeping a maxium time variance of plus or minus 2.50 seconds per day, with an average of plus or minus 1.00. My longines on the other hand is very comfortable. the crown is a very nice size and winding the watch is silky smooth and the sapphire crystal is almost invisible and has a very slight barely noticeable dome shape to it. plus the leather band with alligator top leather is super soft and comfortable. So comfortable I can easily forget I am wearing it. well, that is my long poorly edited short review.
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    Re: Longines Flagship Heritage Info

    Nice watch! Welcome.

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    Longines Flagship Heritage Info

    Here is a vintage Flagship from back when everyone knew of Longines and when their manufacture movements were higher-grade even that elaborée-grade ETAs.



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    I must say it is a tad disappointing that Longines doesnt use Top grade movements in their watches. They are still quite good and I quite like them, but they would be one step closer to awesome with that. Seeing as Omega is using Chronometers in theirs, I wouldve thought it logical for Longines to use Top grade and not step down to elaboree. I would like for it to be Elaboree for Tissot, Hamilton, Mido and then Top for Longines and Rado and chronometers for Omega.

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    I may be wrong, but it seems from the email response from longines that they may adjust the eta elaborate movements to slightly tighter than stock specs. I know mine is gaining about .25 seconds per day for the last 4 days so far. I also know that eta 2892 elaborate claims maximum daily rate of -15/+15. When longines answered their accuracy spec was 0/+10 sec per day, my question was," what is the expected daily accuracy?, and what is the minimum expected accuracy?" So I don't know if they were referring to the expected average daily rate, or the expected maximum daily rate in regard to the 0/+10 sec per day
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    In the swatch brand hierarchy, I feel that Longines should be at least on the same tier as Omega, if not above. Historically they were ahead of Omega and Rolex until the quartz crisis.
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    I own a Longines Heritage Flagship, and I am very happy with it.
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    Re: Longines Flagship Heritage Info

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeWizard View Post
    In the swatch brand hierarchy, I feel that Longines should be at least on the same tier as Omega, if not above. Historically they were ahead of Omega and Rolex until the quartz crisis.
    Many of the Swatch group brands, like Longines and Hamilton are a pale shadow of their former selves.


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    Hello, it has been nearly 3 years since I made this post and I would like to follow up on the accuracy. I have 176 days worth accuracy measurements. Of those days I would take a time reading against time.gov in the morning and in the evening, and many days with several time readings in between. so.. over 176 days their was a total negative rate of -171.25 sec and a positive rate of +105.5 sec. the avg. negative daily rate was -1.663, the avg. positive rate was +1.514. SO, overall I am very happy with the performance of this watch. I do however wish it would error more on the positive side but even at this rate it would take nearly 3 months to be off by more than a minute.

    average daily rate: -0.37 s/d
    average daily rate range: -1.663/+1.514 s/d
    max daily range: -3.50/+4.00 s/d
    actual variance from true time: -65.25 seconds
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    Nice review. In Greece, Longines has always been around, and they've always been the watch company for those who knew what they were looking for; even when they switched to Elaboré-grade ETAs, they chose their movements wisely (you can't go wrong with a 2824 or a 2892) and maintained a high level of fit and finish. I've been lusting after Longines watches ever since I first saw the titanium-and-gold Conquest VHP, and I'm now the happy owner of a Conquest Heritage L1.611.4.75.2, which I absolutely love. Now I've got my eyes on a Flagship Heritage for my father.

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