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    Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    I'm looking for a chronograph that has a center minute-counter hand for the stop-watch function, as opposed to a sub-dial minute-counter. I saw that Chase-Durer has a few models with this arrangement, but the reviews seem to be mixed as to the build quality of this brand. Are there any other examples out there?
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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    Quote Originally Posted by BetaMark View Post
    I'm looking for a chronograph that has a center minute-counter hand for the stop-watch function, as opposed to a sub-dial minute-counter. I saw that Chase-Durer has a few models with this arrangement, but the reviews seem to be mixed as to the build quality of this brand. Are there any other examples out there?
    The only one I'm familiar with is my Chase-Durer UDT 1000XL:



    Nothing wrong with the 27-Jewel ETA 251.262 movement:



    Both the minute and second chronograph hands are center-mounted. Very easy to read.

    The only complaint I had with mine was the lume, but I had Kent Parks relume it and now it's great:



    Build quality is very high. Fit and finish are great, all screws (crown and pushers) work smoothly, just feels right.

    Good luck with your search.

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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    The only one I'm familiar with is my Chase-Durer UDT 1000XL
    I've had my eye on this one. How long have you had yours?
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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    Current pieces include watches with the Lemania 5100, such as the Tutima NATO series. There are plenty of discontinued watches with the 5100, including the Sinn 156, 157, EZM 1, and 142, as well as the Bell and Ross M1, Fortis Cosmonaut, and others. With the exception of the Tutimas, these are getting harder to find. In vintage watches, Omega used this movement in a Speedmaster and in Seamaster chronos, as did Hamilton and others.

    Sinn briefly sold a watch called the 142 STII, which had an ETA movement with a Dubois-Depraz module that allowed a center minutes hand.

    Older ('80's and prior) watches used a Lemania 1340 - such as in Tissot Navigators - but these lacked the 24h register of the 5100.

    There is a quartz movement out there that has a center minutes hand.

    BUT - Sinn has just launched the EZM-10, which is the long awaited successor to their Lemania 5100 watches, but will set you back a pretty penny.
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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    Quote Originally Posted by JerOk View Post
    Current pieces include watches with the Lemania 5100, such as the Tutima NATO series. There are plenty of discontinued watches with the 5100, including the Sinn 156, 157, EZM 1, and 142, as well as the Bell and Ross M1, Fortis Cosmonaut, and others. With the exception of the Tutimas, these are getting harder to find. In vintage watches, Omega used this movement in a Speedmaster and in Seamaster chronos, as did Hamilton and others.

    Sinn briefly sold a watch called the 142 STII, which had an ETA movement with a Dubois-Depraz module that allowed a center minutes hand.

    Older ('80's and prior) watches used a Lemania 1340 - such as in Tissot Navigators - but these lacked the 24h register of the 5100.

    There is a quartz movement out there that has a center minutes hand.

    BUT - Sinn has just launched the EZM-10, which is the long awaited successor to their Lemania 5100 watches, but will set you back a pretty penny.
    Jeremy,

    Thanks for the reply. I think I'd like to stick with something current and quartz.
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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    Quote Originally Posted by BetaMark View Post
    I've had my eye on this one. How long have you had yours?
    A little over 3 years. Never had any problem with it - just the relume, which many would argue was unnecessary, but I like the watch so much that I wanted it to be the best lume possible. I changed the battery when I had the relume done - no sign that it needed it, but thought I might as well since it was the first battery change since new. One feature I really like is the independently adjustable hour hand which allows changing time zones (and DST changes) to be accomplished without having to stop the watch.

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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    Quote Originally Posted by gaijin View Post
    One feature I really like is the independently adjustable hour hand which allows changing time zones (and DST changes) to be accomplished without having to stop the watch.
    Yep, I noticed this feature in the instruction booklet... very cool indeed. Any hints as to who has a good price on these? I'm in the Los Angeles area, if this helps.
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    Re: Looking for a chronograph with center minute-counter hand

    Quote Originally Posted by BetaMark View Post
    Yep, I noticed this feature in the instruction booklet... very cool indeed. Any hints as to who has a good price on these? I'm in the Los Angeles area, if this helps.
    I purchased mine from the Beverly Hills store for less than $500 back in 2008. Sorry, I don't know anywhere selling it for less than about $900 today

    Good luck with your search.
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