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    Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    Can anyone who owns watches with both of these movements say something about the difference in real life use? In other words, when worn on the wrist as a daily driver? Many micro brands use the 9015. Citizen on the other hand also uses the 8200 (or variations of the 8200) in its own watches.

    Apart from the beat rate, is there any reason why either one of these movements would be preferable to the other?

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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    9015 is a much newer design, so expect it to be more efficient. It's also thinner, which means thinner watches. The seconds hand doesn't decouple/jump with the 9015. Handwinding feel is much less "gritty". Date change-over is snappier. 9015 will have tighter accuracy margins from the factory.
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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    Yep the 9015 is much better.

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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    Have both, the 9015 is smoother, thinner, more efficient and more accurate, for not much more money. Well worth it.

    The 8215 has rumored to have a skipping/slipping sweep second hand, though I have never actually seen mine do this. Apparently the design is an indirectly connected sweep gear design, corrected in the 9015.

    It boggles the mind that Citizen does not use the 9015 in more of it’s own products, as it is my favorite affordable automatic.

    I own 9015 in these brands:

    Obris Morgan
    Makara
    Maratac
    Zelos
    Tempest
    Helson
    Borealis
    NTH
    Deep Blue
    Air Blue
    Parnis
    Halios
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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    Quote Originally Posted by murokello View Post
    Yep the 9015 is much better.
    Why?

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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    8200 are non-hacking.

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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    Quote Originally Posted by pickle puss View Post
    8200 are non-hacking.
    I've owned both, and this fact is about the only thing that separates the two in my collection--both equally accurate, dependable, consistent.

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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    I don't know if this will help, but the Miyota 8203a in my diver (Citizen NY0054-04L) seems to be very accurate for an inexpensive engine.

    Been monitoring its accuracy with an atomic clock app and the results hover at just a bit slower than +2spd for a period of 15 days.

    Perhaps I was just lucky. But if given a choice between it and a 9015, I'd go for the 9015 because it hacks.

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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    I’ve got watches with both movements in them and while neither have given me any problems I’d lean to the more refined 9015.

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    Re: Miyota 9015 vs 8200 in a 'daily driver'.

    The rotor on these spins like it is attached to nothing. Very smooth.
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