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    Mystery Swiss Watch

    First of all i'd like to say hello to everyone, i've read many great articles on this forum but only now have i registered & here goes my first post. I'm not exactly sure how this work so if i make any errors just let me know.

    I'd like to pick your expert brains over a watch my grandfather gave me over 35 years ago. This mechanical hand winding Swiss watch has a Heldenbrau Beer logo which disappears & reappears every 15 seconds. Hopefully i can get the pics loaded for you to see, from logo to pitch black, & what looks like a floating second hand. At the bottom of the dial it says Swiss Made, on the back casing it says Noryl Fiber Case & Swiss Made. The back is completely sealed & comes on a tough rubber strap. Just tried to add pics, can't tell if they'll appear correctly, guess i'll see how this turns out....
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    Curious... can you explain how the image appears and disappears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky_Scraper View Post
    Curious... can you explain how the image appears and disappears?
    I have no idea how it works, it just fades in & out. I've never seen another watch quite like it.

    Certainly no battery, it still works fine after all these years & the back is sealed. I can't bring myself to take it apart as i'd be out of my depth & i don't want to break it.

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    Spooky! Any chance of a pic mid-change, as it were?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apm101 View Post
    Spooky! Any chance of a pic mid-change, as it were?
    I just made a quick video & posted it on youtube but for some reason it won't allow me to post the link. The video is called "Mystery swiss watch all info welcome". (first time i've ever posted a video on youtube) It's much better than a series of pics.

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    Video seems to show the following (rough times, not exact):

    00 - 15 sec = image visible
    15 - 30 sec = black
    30 - 45 sec = image visible
    45 - 60 sec = black

    And it does fade in and out between.

    I know when you take two polarized lenses and rotate one, you have the same effect. 0 degees = clear, 90 degrees = total blackout, 180 degrees = clear, 270 degrees = black, 360 deg = clear. Could this be using a polarized disk that rotates with the second hand?
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    Yes the polarizer sounds like a good explanation to me. I wonder if this could be a relatively early Swatch watch designed for advertising.

    Neat watch. I wonder what the beer is like...
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    As the OP mentioned, the tip of the seconds hand is just floating. No arm connecting it to the center. This also reinforces my thought that a polarized disk is rotating with the seconds movement, and the tip of the seconds hand is probably just on top of the disk.
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    Zodiac was known for the mystery dial that used superimposed clear discs to create floating hands. The seconds hand may be driven that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mgb5011 View Post
    Video seems to show the following (rough times, not exact):

    00 - 15 sec = image visible
    15 - 30 sec = black
    30 - 45 sec = image visible
    45 - 60 sec = black

    And it does fade in and out between.

    I know when you take two polarized lenses and rotate one, you have the same effect. 0 degees = clear, 90 degrees = total blackout, 180 degrees = clear, 270 degrees = black, 360 deg = clear. Could this be using a polarized disk that rotates with the second hand?
    Certainly better than my theory of it being witchcraft..... :)

    I'm actually surprised it still works, so i'm guessing it must be a rather basic movement in there.

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