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    New 5k piece decision time

    I'm looking to get a new watch in the 5-6k range. Looking for a few ideas and opinions on the following criteria and options I've looked at

    38-42mm
    sports or casual watches, no dress watches (although there are a few exceptions here)
    I like lighter watches in general, I love Ti watches as well
    Strap preferred over bracelet, I tend to swap out the bracelets for straps anyway even if I buy one on bracelet unless its a really nice slim low profile bracelet (like AP RO)
    Readily available from retailer, no wait lists
    No grey market, no used

    No Omega, No Tudor, No Grand Seiko (Have those brands covered quite well)
    No Rolex (Have my eyes and target on one already so thats independent)
    Prefer display caseback and an inhouse movement just for variety sake but not an absolute must

    Here are the short list of brands I'm looking at in no particular order - JLC, Cartier, Panerai, Hublot, IWC, Bvlgari, Breitling

    JLC Master Control Sector
    + Near perfect for all the requirements
    + Wears great
    - Maybe a little on the boring side
    - Also looks like a Patek homage which irks me just a tad
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    IWC Ingenieur W125 Limited edition
    + Very nice looking unique chronograph with new in-house movement (although its debatable if its actually any better since it doesn't improve on the 7750 by much)
    + Titanium case is super light and I like the weight balance for a chronograph
    - Very thick case, like really really thick!
    - Hasn't sold out yet and was last years LE, makes me think its not really a crowd pleaser
    - A tad generic looking, it doesn't really shine with the IWC DNA design wise
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    Autavia Jack Heuer
    + Love the Panda version of this watch, looks terrific in person
    + In house movement, higher power reserve
    + wears great for a largish chrono
    - I absolutely hate the caseback, "Birthday edition"??? wtf were they thinking
    - Bracelet is pretty awful looking, I'd have to spend extra to get the lovely brown strap or find a matching black OEM
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    Panerai 1392/1523
    + Looks and wears great on my wrist
    + In house, display caseback, unique design and look in my collection
    - Priced higher than budget by a fair amount
    - Seems a tad pricey from dealers even though grey market has new pieces for well below retail
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    Breitling Navitimer 41
    + Always wanted a Navitimer, this one wears the best on my wrist
    + Wears slim for a chronograph
    - Expensive for a non in-house movement
    - Wonder if I'll always feel bad about not getting the B01
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    Hublot Classic Fusion 38
    + It looks really nice in person
    + Superb wearability and weight balance
    - Ridiculous pricing, this costs more than the JLC with an ETA!!!
    - Does it really make sense to get a Hublot at this price point?
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    IWC Aquatimer 35th
    + Huge watch that wears really well
    + Very nice titanium case
    - Super expensive and above budget
    - Standard movement for a high price
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    Bvlgari Octo
    + The only watch on this list that I will consider on bracelet cos it wears great
    + Unique, slim, something new
    - Pricey and may not be great with value retention
    - Cannot swap to a strap easily if I tire of the bracelet
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    Cartier Cle' or Tank
    + Excellent value for in house movements and retention
    + Dont have a roman numeral dial in my collection
    - Cle is a tad feminine looking in design
    - Tank may not be ideal for casual wear
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    Piaget Polo S
    + Goes over budget but can stay close enough
    + Very unique and lovely design
    - Resale, value retention are all big issues I think
    - the only strap option is on the blue model, I prefer the white dial but that only comes on bracelet for a grand more
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    Other options that have crossed my mind are the Tudor Black bay chrono (thick and a tad heavy, case is a bit too similar to my non-chrono black bay) and Navitimer 38 (not as nice as some of the other options picked)

    As always I'm open to other suggestions within budget, more the merrier!

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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    Not sure what else you have, but I’d opt for the IWC Aquatimer or Pam of the options listed. Have fun!

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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    Of the watches in your selection I prefer the Piaget, beautiful watch.
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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    What about the relatively new Zenith Defy Classic? 41mm, Ti case, exhibition caseback to view the very nice Elite caliber, available on strap, in budget from an AD. Seems to check all the boxes.

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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    Cartier santos
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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    Of the options offered, I'd opt for:

    1. Cartier Tank - Classic, timeless design from a respected house that can be dressed up and down a bit.
    2. Bvlgari octo - A Genta design that takes real heritage from the RO and Nautilus without being an impostor (like the Piaget). It is large-ish but can look good on a strap too and does casual to a bit dressy well.
    3. IWC Aquatimer - An underrated watch by WIS that has a great look and serious diving cred. Works well only casually.

    Not on your list would maybe be the new Cartier Santos or Tank Americaine in steel - both great watches!
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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    Panerai.

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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    Quote Originally Posted by jilgiljongiljing View Post
    I'm looking to get a new watch in the 5-6k range. Looking for a few ideas and opinions on the following criteria and options I've looked at

    38-42mm
    sports or casual watches, no dress watches (although there are a few exceptions here)
    I like lighter watches in general, I love Ti watches as well
    Strap preferred over bracelet, I tend to swap out the bracelets for straps anyway even if I buy one on bracelet unless its a really nice slim low profile bracelet (like AP RO)
    Readily available from retailer, no wait lists
    No grey market, no used

    No Omega, No Tudor, No Grand Seiko (Have those brands covered quite well)
    No Rolex (Have my eyes and target on one already so thats independent)
    Prefer display caseback and an inhouse movement just for variety sake but not an absolute must

    Here are the short list of brands I'm looking at in no particular order - JLC, Cartier, Panerai, Hublot, IWC, Bvlgari, Breitling

    JLC Master Control Sector
    + Near perfect for all the requirements
    + Wears great
    - Maybe a little on the boring side
    - Also looks like a Patek homage which irks me just a tad
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    IWC Ingenieur W125 Limited edition
    + Very nice looking unique chronograph with new in-house movement (although its debatable if its actually any better since it doesn't improve on the 7750 by much)
    + Titanium case is super light and I like the weight balance for a chronograph
    - Very thick case, like really really thick!
    - Hasn't sold out yet and was last years LE, makes me think its not really a crowd pleaser
    - A tad generic looking, it doesn't really shine with the IWC DNA design wise
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    Autavia Jack Heuer
    + Love the Panda version of this watch, looks terrific in person
    + In house movement, higher power reserve
    + wears great for a largish chrono
    - I absolutely hate the caseback, "Birthday edition"??? wtf were they thinking
    - Bracelet is pretty awful looking, I'd have to spend extra to get the lovely brown strap or find a matching black OEM
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    Panerai 1392/1523
    + Looks and wears great on my wrist
    + In house, display caseback, unique design and look in my collection
    - Priced higher than budget by a fair amount
    - Seems a tad pricey from dealers even though grey market has new pieces for well below retail
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    Breitling Navitimer 41
    + Always wanted a Navitimer, this one wears the best on my wrist
    + Wears slim for a chronograph
    - Expensive for a non in-house movement
    - Wonder if I'll always feel bad about not getting the B01
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    Hublot Classic Fusion 38
    + It looks really nice in person
    + Superb wearability and weight balance
    - Ridiculous pricing, this costs more than the JLC with an ETA!!!
    - Does it really make sense to get a Hublot at this price point?
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    IWC Aquatimer 35th
    + Huge watch that wears really well
    + Very nice titanium case
    - Super expensive and above budget
    - Standard movement for a high price
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    Bvlgari Octo
    + The only watch on this list that I will consider on bracelet cos it wears great
    + Unique, slim, something new
    - Pricey and may not be great with value retention
    - Cannot swap to a strap easily if I tire of the bracelet
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    Cartier Cle' or Tank
    + Excellent value for in house movements and retention
    + Dont have a roman numeral dial in my collection
    - Cle is a tad feminine looking in design
    - Tank may not be ideal for casual wear
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    Piaget Polo S
    + Goes over budget but can stay close enough
    + Very unique and lovely design
    - Resale, value retention are all big issues I think
    - the only strap option is on the blue model, I prefer the white dial but that only comes on bracelet for a grand more
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    Other options that have crossed my mind are the Tudor Black bay chrono (thick and a tad heavy, case is a bit too similar to my non-chrono black bay) and Navitimer 38 (not as nice as some of the other options picked)

    As always I'm open to other suggestions within budget, more the merrier!
    If you are looking at the JLC I myself would prefer the Master Control Date with arabic numerals over the Sector dial, I much prefer the raised Arabic numerals and Indices rather then the printed dial. If all your watches are round then you might want to get the Cartier to add a tank to your collection. I find the Piaget, Hublot and Bvulgari to be very similar in style and I prefer the Piaget over the two others. I am not big on chronographs but if you are I would go with the Breitling. Of all the choices you have selected I would narrow it down to the Piaget, Panarai, and IWC but I would take the JLC Master Control Date which you have not selected over any of those you are chosing from.
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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    I'd go with the Piaget and the Octo. Especially if you can find that Octo in titanium. That thing is a monster.

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    Re: New 5k piece decision time

    Of those listed I'd go for the Polo. What about a JLC Polaris?
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