Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?
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    Question Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    Do they actually serve ANY worthwhile purpose, at least even "aesthetically"??

    I highly doubt that even.

    They seem, to me, like the brand's way of saying FU to the buyer for even thinking about trying to change the strap or bracelet.
    Sure not impossible to replace the original bracelet, so they just wanna make it just a bit more of a hassle than is really necessary.

    Somebody enlighten me please.
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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    Sadism. That's the only possible explanation.

    Really, though, I imagine it has more to do with aesthetics and proportions than anything else. If a watch designer thinks a 19mm or 21mm strap is the best size for a particular watch design, and the watchmaker can produce the straps/bracelets to fit, then what does the designer care if that limits aftermarket strap options?
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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    Maybe a Mod could merge these threads?

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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    Corporate greed. They want you to buy overpriced oem straps.

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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    None, but because Rolex did it you're bound to get apologists explaining the reasons 19mm MUST be superior.
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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    It's frustrating, but no big deal, really. Easy to fit a 20 mm strap to a 19 mm lug, 22 to 21, and so on.

    In the pic below, lug width is 23 mm, strap is 24:

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    While the fit is snug, it didn't feel like I had to force things to make it work. Honestly, I've purchased a 22 mm strap for a 22 mm lug width that had to be FORCED in, and I've also purchased a 20 mm strap for a 20 mm lug that fit almost too loosely. I sometimes wonder how exact the measurements are, anyway.
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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    There must be some calculated reason behind it. Proportional balance of the case, maybe? As much as I wish the BB was made with 20mm lugs (and I really wish it did), I think it would have thrown the balance off. At least, I hope there is some good reason, as those 19mm lugs are a pain. No 19mm leather natos? Come on!

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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Docrwm View Post
    None, but because Rolex did it you're bound to get apologists explaining the reasons 19mm MUST be superior.
    Not sure it's anything that needs apologizing for, but regardless, Rolex's most common lug width is 20mm and not 19mm. Although they do have a few models at 21mm, I believe that the Air King is the only current model at 19mm.

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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    I actually find 21mm to be far more common than 22mm in the watches I've owned (certainly recall JLC and Zenith using it). I think the problem lies with 3rd party strap makers not making them rather than the watch manufacturers

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    Re: Odd lug sizes - 19mm, 21mm, 23mm: What's the point other than to annoy?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3leggedpony View Post
    I actually find 21mm to be far more common than 22mm in the watches I've owned (certainly recall JLC and Zenith using it). I think the problem lies with 3rd party strap makers not making them rather than the watch manufacturers

    Right there.
    Generally, these odd sizes are found among upper tier brands.
    And then some of the run-o-the-mill sometimes like to get pretentious and do one too. Hamilton, Seiko, etc.

    The relative scarcity of odd size bracelets and straps is for this same reason: too small a market. Those who buy expensive watches don't usually change OEM to aftermarket.

    I am still not sold on the aesthetic justification.
    Just like the Rolex caseback, the whole idea of being odd, I think, was to make it difficult, if not impossible, for the consumer to modify the design. Just another example of satanism posing as "smart business."
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