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    Orient Movement vs. Swiss Movement

    The school of Horology in Pennsylvania has made a video available to the public that talks about the superiority of the Orient in-house movement that of the popular ETA movement that is found in a lot of Swiss watches.
    This video examines the winding systems of both Orients 46943 (Found in the cem6500 series popularly known as the Mako series) and the swiss movement eta 2892.a2

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    Re: Orient Movement vs. Swiss Movement

    It might demonstrate the simplicity of the orient's rotor and autowinding system, but keep in mind the ETA movement can be handwound and has a higher beatrate too, so the automatic rotor is just one aspect of a movement. Also note the channel the video is displayed - yep its OrientUSA. Not implying anything but I just don't want this to devolve into a $150 watch is superior to a $3000 watch thread, since many other factors come into play.
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    Re: Orient Movement vs. Swiss Movement

    Interesting. Will take a look. Haven't watched the video yet, but doesn't the Orient movement also lack hack?

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    Re: Orient Movement vs. Swiss Movement

    Quote Originally Posted by 2manywatchez View Post
    Interesting. Will take a look. Haven't watched the video yet, but doesn't the Orient movement also lack hack?
    Yeah that too. I just wanted people to keep in mind that the review only covered the autowinding mechanism and nothing else.

    The orient website has a post about this that makes it seem like the orient movement is superior in everyway to the ETA movement, which I think is a bit of marketing fluff.

    I own an OS300 and think its a wonderful watch, but if someone said would you rather make it a high beat, hacking, hand-windable movement, I would probably say yes.
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    Re: Orient Movement vs. Swiss Movement

    This was discussed weeks ago:
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/showthr...ght=orient+eta

    There's supposed to be a series of these vids.
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    Yeah, this was discussed earlier. All they concluded was that Orient's simple winding system seems to be more efficient in winding the mainspring than the ETA's.

    I'd take the ETA movement any day. Not even a real competition, IMO. The hacking and handwinding are huge for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveInLA View Post
    Yeah, this was discussed earlier. All they concluded was that Orient's simple winding system seems to be more efficient in winding the mainspring than the ETA's.

    I'd take the ETA movement any day. Not even a real competition, IMO. The hacking and handwinding are huge for me.
    My new Orient dual time CDH00002B has the newly developed caliber 48K40 movement that hacks but still does not hand wind. Quite frankly, I have not missed the hand wind capability at all:






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    Re: Orient Movement vs. Swiss Movement

    Glad you enjoy your watch, Minidriver. REgarding handwinding... just curious, do you hanve a watch that handwinds? I have several, and I wish all my watches had that capability. I don't care about hacking so much anymore, but handwinding is extremely useful. I rotate several watches, and if I go more than 1 day without wearing one, it'll stop. A good wind will keep it in play. I'd rather not spend 10 minutes shaking the watch to do the same thing.
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    Re: Orient Movement vs. Swiss Movement

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveInLA View Post
    Glad you enjoy your watch, Minidriver. REgarding handwinding... just curious, do you hanve a watch that handwinds? I have several, and I wish all my watches had that capability. I don't care about hacking so much anymore, but handwinding is extremely useful. I rotate several watches, and if I go more than 1 day without wearing one, it'll stop. A good wind will keep it in play. I'd rather not spend 10 minutes shaking the watch to do the same thing.
    None of them do My experience with mechanical watches is limited to Orients and I am very pleased with the winding efficiency of their movements. Even pulling out the crown all the way to the second click stop and start setting the time, gets the movement in motion even after several days of non-use. I don't have to shake the watch for 10 minutes just to get it moving. In about 3-4 hours is all it takes for them to reach 25-30 hours worth of charge in the spring.

    Personally, I find hacking more desirable.

    I guess it al comes down to personal preference and what you are really used to.

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    It would really bug me to have a watch that cannot hack. That's a deal breaker for me.
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