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    The phishers are biting again

    Hi all. Yesterday I listed a Junghans watch for sale, and got an email (not PM) response fairly quickly from someone whose email identified him as Nathan R. Ciufo. I sent him a link to my feedback, and inasmuch as he had no WUS presence as far as I could tell, asked him for some identity information and/or something to establish legitimacy.

    Awaiting a response, I Googled the name, and found someone with a Ham license that formed part of the email address I had been given. He was located quite some distance from where the prospective buyer claimed to be, but I did not think this was unusual.

    Prospective buyer had seemed most anxious to buy the watch, and today he emailed and said he was ready to send money. He asked me to click on a link in his email, presumably to my own listing so that he could verify that this was the watch he wanted.

    That struck an unsettling chord.

    With some trepidation, I clicked on the link, to find something that appeared to be the recent WUS notice about new passwords. Not wanting to login from a link, I looked at it and noticed that I was on watchVseek. Got off immediately. I emailed him, saying that I had a problem with the link as that he should call me. (Betting he won't)

    I then called the REAL Nathan, whose number I was able to locate. Nice fellow, but he's not looking for a watch. Nor was the email his. He was aware of this identity scammer however, because the fellow had used his name and Ham call sign on a radio hobbyist forum he belongs to. He has taken this up with Google, but they don't seem willing or able to help him.

    I told him I'd put it out on my forum as a warning. The real Nathan seems like a very nice guy. To bad someone is playing with his identity.

    You have been warned.
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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    We need a Guantanamo Bay equivalent for scammers and thieves, freakin' scumbags. Thanks for the heads up, it's shark infested waters out there any more.
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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    It is probably safe to assume that phishers are ALWAYS out there.

    If he was using a gmail account, then probably the most Google can do is to shut down that account...but it's also much too plausible that it was a spoofed email address. Unfortunately, it's too much effort, for too little return, to try to nail one person.
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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    Got a phish from the same ....... and a link to a spoofed WUS site....

    He emailed me asking to confirm the sale per the link....

    THE LINK BELOW IS A SCAM

    THE LINK BELOW IS A SCAM

    THE LINK BELOW IS A SCAM


    DO NOT LOG IN TO THIS SITE BUT POSTING AS A HEADS UP

    DO NOT LOG IN

    DO NOT LOG IN

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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    Wow. Scary stuff man. Thanks for the heads up.


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    The phishers are biting again

    Actually, what is a good way to protect yourself? I've never belonged to a forum where I would ever sell anything so I don't know a ton about this stuff.


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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    Quote Originally Posted by Clchamberlain View Post
    Actually, what is a good way to protect yourself? I've never belonged to a forum where I would ever sell anything so I don't know a ton about this stuff.
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    I think this is a 'sex education' scenario: The only sure way to be safe is to abstain.

    Translated to WUS terms: Only buy keepers!

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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    I'm finding scammers on TRF who are stealing usernames from established WuS members. They respond to your WTB threads insisting you e-mail them for pictures and pricing. Scum.

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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    Quote Originally Posted by Clchamberlain View Post
    Actually, what is a good way to protect yourself? I've never belonged to a forum where I would ever sell anything so I don't know a ton about this stuff.


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    Re: The phishers are biting again

    Quote Originally Posted by Clchamberlain View Post
    Actually, what is a good way to protect yourself?
    Don't get too buried in the "... finally a buyer!" excitement. Use your head. Much the same as with (software) viruses, the best protection is... YOU.
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