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    Please Submit your Hi-Beat Wisdom.

    I must admit I'm somewhat in the dark on what current High-Frequency mechanical watches are now available on the market--movements with over 36,000bph. It was my limited understanding that only Seiko and Zenith offered such a time piece. However, it appears that Chopard offers a L.U.C. model that beats at 57,600bph and is COSC and Tag Heuer has a MikroTourbillionS model where the second tourbillion runs at 360,000bph (50Hz)!

    One article also stated very clearly that silicon has helped speed things up. Curious?


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    Blancpain Bathyscaphe Chronograph is 36k beats/hr... and awesome!


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    Breguet make an ultra-high beat something-or-other as well.

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    Re: Please Submit your Hi-Beat Wisdom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Domo View Post
    Breguet make an ultra-high beat something-or-other as well.
    Yes the Type XXII. I believe it's 10hz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solomente View Post
    Yes the Type XXII. I believe it's 10hz
    The Breguet Classique Chronometrie also has a 10hz movement.
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    Re: Please Submit your Hi-Beat Wisdom.

    Zenith AF/P from the 1970's with a 28 jewel caliber 405 movement.
    Zodiac SST 36000 with 17 jewel house movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John MS View Post
    Zenith AF/P from the 1970's with a 28 jewel caliber 405 movement.
    Zodiac SST 36000 with 17 jewel house movement.
    I was asking for models available in today's market. However, I did not know that Zodiac made a 36000 frequency watch but love their old Sea Wolf's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrouchoM View Post
    Blancpain Bathyscaphe Chronograph is 36k beats/hr... and awesome!


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    This could be one of my grails except that it's 43mm. Beautiful machine though!

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    Re: Please Submit your Hi-Beat Wisdom.

    I had a chance to play around with TH Mikrograph and Mikropendulum (not the tourbillon though) and they were very impressive watches. Execution and technology were top-notch. But they are "haute-horology" - prices are somewhat unreachable for most (those who can afford these can look at PP or Lange) and the watches did not seem like a good fit for daily wear. Also, the core watch movement had a std 28.8kbph movement, and it was just the chrono module that was powered by hairspring-less pendulum (for mp) and a 2nd power barrel (for mg) at 360kbph. The design only offered 70-90 minutes of PR for the chronograph module.

    I happen to own a Zenith ElPrimero w 36kbph movement and it is a beautiful watch. But frankly, high-beat movements on chronographs are slightly under-whelming for one simple reason. The running second hand is on a small subdial and smooth sweep on a subdial is hardly noticeable (low-beat watch can appear to be pretty smooth sweeping on a subdial with a tiny hand).
    For that reason, I think high-beat movements look best on a 3-hander. Zenith Espada certainly looks good, but I find the use of ElPrimero movement w Chrono stripped to be somewhat castrated. If I had to pick a high-beat watch for my collection today - Grand Seiko is where I'd look to (although my ElPrimero is going nowhere and is amazing). GS probably does high-beat the best as they are all abut perfect execution of hands and indices and a smooth sweep looks beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderW View Post
    GS probably does high-beat the best as they are all abut perfect execution of hands and indices and a smooth sweep looks beautiful.
    The conductor's baton style seconds hand on the GS makes the Hi-Beat sweep particularly elegant.

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