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    Rotor missing from this watch?

    I have a Seiko 5, found from my uncle's stuff and I think the rotor is missing, but I'm not sure. Am I right? This is the watch:

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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    Up and run off with the crown, I guess.
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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    .. but you have no crown.
    It says Auto...but looks like a Manual wind.
    Someone did some modifications to it, I think!
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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    Wow, what a Franken. Too bad it's in such bad shape. I wouldn't put any money into it. But would be cool just as a curiosity. Doesn't look like a very good movement. But wonder who the maker of the movement is.

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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    That is a fake Seiko 5. None of the components are authentic Seiko, contrary to what Robmks implies.
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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    That's a "Tongji" handwind, better known as the "Chinese standard movement", and that is no Seiko...

    Chinese standard movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by mleok View Post
    That is a fake Seiko 5. None of the components are authentic Seiko, contrary to what Robmks implies.
    Really?

    "Wow, what a Franken."
    Meaning it's something put together with various parts.

    "But wonder who the maker of the movement is."
    Think that's pretty clear it's not a Seiko movement.

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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robmks View Post
    Really?

    "Wow, what a Franken."
    Meaning it's something put together with various parts.

    "But wonder who the maker of the movement is."
    Think that's pretty clear it's not a Seiko movement.

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    A franken in this context typically implies that it is a mix of authentic and fake components. In this case, every component is fake. This is a 100% fake Seiko 5.

    An authentic Seiko 5 has the following attributes:

    1. Automatic winding
    2. Day/date displayed in a single window
    3. Water resistance
    4. Recessed crown at the 4 o’clock position
    5. Durable case and bracelet

    The dial only has a date complication, which indicates that the dial is fake. This should be fairly obvious in any case, given the very poorly done applied Seiko 5 logo.

    The crown is at 3 o'clock on this watch, which means that the case is fake.

    The movement is a Chinese standard movement, as Domo indicates, so it's clearly not a Seiko movement.

    The display caseback looks nothing like any Seiko 5 I've seen, so I can only assume it is fake as well.
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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by mleok View Post
    A franken in this context typically implies that it is a mix of authentic and fake components. In this case, every component is fake. This is a 100% fake Seiko 5.

    An authentic Seiko 5 has the following attributes:

    1. Automatic winding
    2. Day/date displayed in a single window
    3. Water resistance
    4. Recessed crown at the 4 o’clock position
    5. Durable case and bracelet

    The dial only has a date complication, which indicates that the dial is fake. This should be fairly obvious in any case, given the very poorly done applied Seiko 5 logo.

    The crown is at 3 o'clock on this watch, which means that the case is fake.

    The movement is a Chinese standard movement, as Domo indicates, so it's clearly not a Seiko movement.

    The display caseback looks nothing like any Seiko 5 I've seen, so I can only assume it is fake as well.
    Well you got me on one point, seems they all have day/date.

    But an image search on vintage Seiko 5 shows there are plenty with the crown at 3.

    Bob

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    Re: Rotor missing from this watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robmks View Post
    Well you got me on one point, seems they all have day/date.

    But an image search on vintage Seiko 5 shows there are plenty with the crown at 3.

    Bob
    Bob, is there any component of the watch in the original post that you believe to be an authentic Seiko component? If not, what are you trying to prove?


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