Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?
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    Confused Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    So long story short:
    - I have some saved searches on eBay, for the purpose of trying to (re)acquire an Alpinist, as I've owned one for most years since 7-8 years ago when I got more serious about automatics, and Japanese ones in particular
    - last year they announced they're discontinuing it which promptly raised prices sky-high (like at least 2x what I used to pay for one from Seiya-san or Tanaka, which was about the $300 mark.
    - now about a month or so ago, my saved search notifications for these (I had it set at $350 for new) went haywire with hundreds and hundres being sold by various sellers in the US, and described as "no box" "refurbished with new parts", "as new" etc.

    Who exactly would sit to refurbish so many Alpinists and where would they get this sudden huge stash of watches to restore/refurbish? To make matters worse, these sellers seem to be mostly newish, selling just these watches or some cheap perfumes probably to pad-up their feedback scores.

    My BS/nonsense alerts have been ringing high as soon as I've seen these listings, coupled with the SARB017 having a solid caseback which means its likely very few or none of those many positive feedbacks left for purchases are from unassuming buyers.

    Or could I just be a bit paranoid as usual?

    Have a look for yourself:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Refurbished...X/312855659957
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Refurbish-S...n/352704379163
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...t=nc&_udhi=275

    P.S. Some of the listings for which I received notifications in prior weeks have already been terminated as no more stock or ended by seller. But as you can see in the above, these are selling like hotcakes, 10s per day, which is expected as this 250 USD price is about as low as it ever got in the heydays for one, albeit these don't have a box.
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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    If it's too good to be true...

    I would look on the used market. There are plenty available under $400 in good shape.

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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    I would not spend time trying to analyze questionable sellers motives. Nor would I buy refurbed watches. There are plenty of new ones to be found from reputable dealers. Just pay the market price for a new one and get on with enjoying a classic watch.

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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    I would not spend time trying to analyze questionable sellers motives. Nor would I buy refurbed watches. There are plenty of new ones to be found from reputable dealers. Just pay the market price for a new one and get on with enjoying a classic watch.
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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    Yes, we do not know what kind of parts are used in the refurbished watches. Buy the seller not the watch.


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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan83bz View Post
    Or could I just be a bit paranoid as usual?
    You're not. There was a discussion about this in the Affordables subforum here about another seller that had a large stock of "refurbished" SARB017. I'd avoid all of them.
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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen V View Post
    You're not. There was a discussion about this in the Affordables subforum here about another seller that had a large stock of "refurbished" SARB017. I'd avoid all of them.
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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    Yeah, noticed that abundance too. Imo, they have to be fully or partly fake.
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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    I know getting the best deal is important and a hundred bucks is a hundred bucks but for a hundred and change you can still find a spanking new sarb17 on Amazon and feel confident about what you are purchasing.

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    Re: Seiko Alpinist SARB017 - boatload of fakes?!?

    Stay away guys.

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