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    Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    I've been dabbling in the affordable realm so far with my watch collecting. I'm pretty aggressive with my rotation and try to wear all of my watches at least once a month. That being said, I'm wanting to step it up to the mid-tier and am looking solely in the used market. I'd like a watch that can be worn casual as well as with business attire or even a suit. Basically, a do everything watch. Having narrowed it down to a few models, I'm turning to the public forum here on WUS for a little guidance or direction. I like something with a darker face like blue or black (brown? ). These are the ones I narrowed it down to:

    Rolex Explorer II (16570) black dial: Functional, holds value, iconic, 40mm size suits my 6.5" wrist. Con: could be duped into a well-made replica, most expensive
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    Omega Aqua Terra "Skyfall" 38.5mm: well reviewed and loved on the forums from owners, sweet spot in size for me, cheaper buy in. Con: No GMT function like REII, won't hold value.
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    Rolex Explorer I (14270) 36mm: Rolex but still affordable, smaller size dial might fit my wrist better, timeless design. Con: no date
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    Grand Seiko Hi-Beat or Spring Drive: exclusivity, fit and finish, in-house advanced movement, flies under the radar. Con: "Wow, you must've paid at least $200 for that Seiko", might not hold value, flies under the radar.
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    ***None of these pics are mine. Taken off Google.

    I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on these versatile watches in this range.Which one tickles your fancy given the choice. Feel free to suggest others as well.

    Cheers!
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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    Watch: Rolex
    Why: Because it's a Rolex
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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    You might be able to get a pre used exp 1 for under 5k but not an exp 2. Given your needs I'd recommend the explorer 1. The bezel on the exp 2 makes it just a tad sportier then the exp 1 IMHO.
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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    Personally, I'd go for the Aqua Terra out of those you've listed. It's just a really cool watch. There's absolutely nothing wrong with any you've listed, though. Have you considered the Speedy reduced?

    Long story short, whatever you choose will be fine.

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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    Damn, posted the wrong Explorer II pic. That's actually the new one which is too big on me and I don't like the swollen hands. This is the one:
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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    I would go with the Explorer II, but with the polar dial. Two quick ways to determine the authenticity of the movement: (i) when setting the time, the hands rotate in the same direction as the crown; (ii) the quickset should adjust the main hour hand (it should turn over when the main hour hand goes past 12, as opposed to the GMT hand going past 24), and the date should be adjusted by the main hour hand. I was actually surprised to learn that the older generation polar Explorer II could be had for under $4000 preowned.
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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    Quote Originally Posted by ajbutler13 View Post
    Personally, I'd go for the Aqua Terra out of those you've listed. It's just a really cool watch. There's absolutely nothing wrong with any you've listed, though. Have you considered the Speedy reduced?

    Long story short, whatever you choose will be fine.
    No, I'm not really into Chronographs. Don't see a real need for them.

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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    Quote Originally Posted by ajbutler13 View Post
    Have you considered the Speedy reduced?
    Why the Speedmaster Reduced instead of the Speedmaster Professional? Or would that be too much of a hackneyed suggestion even for this forum?


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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    Okay, so here goes- if you were looking at a Rolex, I'd personally suggest an Explorer I- its a lovely versatile watch while not as 'sporty' as the larger Explorer II.

    I'd say a toss up between the Omega and the Grand Seiko. The Grand Seiko is a lovely watch with a tremendous amount of history and an exceptional movement. It's finishing is probably the best of all three, and you can be comfortable that you'd be buying an excellent timepiece without a large premium for the name. On the other hand Omega tends to also have wonderful finishing (perhaps not as good as Rolex, but that is a debate for another time), and the dial on the Aqua Terra is lovely. The size too is perfect.

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    Re: Which versatile watch $3.5-5K, Rolex/Omega/Grand Seiko?

    Quote Originally Posted by mleok View Post
    Why the Speedmaster Reduced instead of the Speedmaster Professional? Or would that be too much of a hackneyed suggestion even for this forum?
    Must've been because I had never even heard of the "Speedmaster Reduced" and I lurk the threads a lot.

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