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    What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Hey WUS folks-
    Noticed quite a lot of opinions on this topic throughout the collector community. Tried doing a search on similar topics but haven’t found anyone else asking this specific question (though if you do, please link me!)

    What’s the fine line between whether a watch is a “homage” or just a “copy” or rip-off? I’m excluding “replicas” from this discussion because something that copies the logo as well is clearly just a replica.

    For example, is the CW GMT a homage to the Rolex GMT or a copy? Is Steinhart a copy? How do you feel about homages and copies in general? Would you own one? Do you judge negatively people that own a copy?


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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Quote Originally Posted by raptorrapture View Post
    Tried doing a search on similar topics but haven’t found anyone else asking this specific question (though if you do, please link me!)


    I get better results using Google.

    Try - "homage fake copy site:forums.watchuseek.com", there are lots of results.

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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Quote Originally Posted by happyscrappyheropup View Post
    I get better results using Google.

    Try - "homage fake copy site:forums.watchuseek.com", there are lots of results.
    Ok will try that!

    I'm new to WUS, so is this going to be locked? If so Mods, go ahead and delete. Sorry!

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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Who's got that graphic with the red/white/pink fields...?
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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Quote Originally Posted by raptorrapture View Post
    Ok will try that!

    I'm new to WUS, so is this going to be locked? If so Mods, go ahead and delete. Sorry!

    I don't see a reason for the thread to be locked, there are plenty of similar threads on WUS.

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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Discussions about fake or knockoff watches get closed because they violate forum rules. I'm sure you understand that using trade names and logos belonging to another is intellectual property theft. Please take the time to read forum rules at the top of every forum.

    Watch designers have a long history of borrowing design details from one another. At some point some members consider some watches to be an homage to another. Some members like homage watches and others do not.
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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Legal design copies should be called what they are: legal design copies. And there's nothing wrong with that.

    Homages are watches that are actually made as a tribute to previous models, usually by the same company. E.g. the current Omega Railmaster or the Heuer Autavia. But even these are primarily made to make a profit, so I'd question the honorable motive even there.

    Unfortunately many people confuse these two groups.
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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    I also got in pre-lock.
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    Re: What’s the fine line between “homage” and “copy”?

    Quote Originally Posted by ffritz View Post
    Legal design copies should be called what they are: legal design copies. And there's nothing wrong with that.

    Homages are watches that are actually made as a tribute to previous models, usually by the same company. E.g. the current Omega Railmaster or the Heuer Autavia. But even these are primarily made to make a profit, so I'd question the honorable motive even there.

    Unfortunately many people confuse these two groups.
    If you're looking for honorable motives in the corporate, profit-driven, world - you'll be looking for a long time.

    The best we can hope for is moral neutrality - or a lack of outright immoral activity. Which, fortunately, isn't uncommon. As far as 'homage's' of earlier models go, I think that's a pretty benign thing. Companies, and countries, and heck, people, always leverage their past for future success. Nothing really wrong with that. Plus, a lot of those watches were damn good looking. And I'm glad we can continue to buy them, new.
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