I've bought watches from AD's, GD's, the Bay, from Japanese dealers, etc. Only on this site do I see a sales forum with so many people saying they don't want "low ball" bids. So my question is: what exactly is a low ball bid? I had occasion recently to bid 80% of asking price on a watch on the Sales Forum, only to receive from the seller a lecture about low ball bids. I don't think 80% of asking price is a low ball bid, and instead of a lecture I should have received a thank you and a counter-offer. Incidentally, many weeks later the watch is still for sale. So what say you- is there some accepted definition for "low ball"?