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    What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Like the title says I have been searching the web for answers which only added to my confusion, I am interested in hand wound watches and it appeals to me to be in touch with my watch every morning.
    I already got one that i like, but it is not chronometer. I love the speedy for many other aspects besides the fact it is a hand wound, but i would like to know about the best hand wound movement out there. Robust, ACCURACY, bullet proof…..?
    swiss, Japanese….. ???
    Which movement would be considered the holy grail of hand wound mechanical? if that question is answered i can then look into the brand of watches that this movement is slapped in.
    I searched the forum but did not get a clear answer to my question.

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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Do you have a price point in mind?
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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by mleok View Post
    Do you have a price point in mind?
    around 4-5K
    But from what i read the price does not translate necessarily into my quest. even some suggested that older mechanical KS were in the 60s more accurate than current high caliber ones.
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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    What makes you think such a thing exists?
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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by drunken monkey View Post
    What makes you think such a thing exists?
    There has to be a holy grail in any thing, or not?

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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    have no comment on which hand wind movement is the best but for around 4-5k you won't get any better that Dornbluth & Sohn

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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steppy View Post
    have no comment on which hand wind movement is the best but for around 4-5k you won't get any better that Dornbluth & Sohn

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    Do they make the movement in-house, or they share components with other swiss movements, like ETA 6498 movement?
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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc_1 View Post
    Do they make the movement in-house, or they share components with other swiss movements, like ETA 6498 movement?
    Both.

    They make in house movements in their Quintus line.

    They also heavily modify the ETA 6498 in their 99 series. The above picture is a modified movement. If you compare it to the original ETA you will see that virtually everything has been modified. All engraving done by hand, gold chatons turned from gold rods, screws heat blued, converted to 3/4 plate, etc. Furthermore various models are modified to move the position of the sub seconds / centre seconds, add power reserve, date, and Quattro arret hacking function.

    At the OP's price point, the 99 series would be a very good option.
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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Dornbluth has a new in-house movement but I don't think it will be available in watches at those price points. Though I guess a lot depends on all this crazy currency decoupling, exchange rates, etc . . .
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    Re: What is the holy grail of hand wound movements?

    Quote Originally Posted by cedargrove View Post
    Both.

    They make in house movements in their Quintus line.

    They also heavily modify the ETA 6498 in their 99 series. The above picture is a modified movement. If you compare it to the original ETA you will see that virtually everything has been modified. All engraving done by hand, gold chatons turned from gold rods, screws heat blued, etc.
    So here we are talking about ETA movement, I know it is a robust one and many fine watchmakers will regulate it to 6 positions like what AL Archer does and this is one option I already probed.
    What other gems out there that are better components and better made that the generic ETA (and here am excluding from my search the engraving, deco…am looking for the real stuff like better made hairsprings, better made escapement …etc?
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