Well, there's also a third criteria for me, and that would be "function." When I'm looking for a watch, function is more important than movement or looks. That includes the lume as well.
I am just now getting indoctrinated into the finer aspects of movements. So, at this stage I would say I opt for looks, but really it is more for functionality.
I just purchased a gorgeous new Gemini skeleton, and the only thing it does is sit there and look pretty. My first such "wayward" purchase. Most of my other watches are workhorses for me, and were purchased for specific functionality.
As example, my 25 year old Seiko Yachting Timer is second to none when racing sailboats, which I have spent most of my life doing. The countdown timer is analog - which to me is much more "real-world informative" in the final minute before a start than a digital LCD readout.
It is a quartz movement with several motors inside. I doubt seriously if a mechanical movement could duplicate the functions of 5, 10, and 15 minute time periods, plus an adjustable time period, plus a series of audio beeps during the final minute, plus a normal time function. I don't think a watch similar to this (analog) can even be purchased today which is kind of sad.
It's kind of funny really in that all the sailing rags promote nothing but watches like the Rolex Oyster Submariner - which out on the starting line doesn't do squat for a skipper.
(It takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin') --"That's the story, folks---glad we could get together" -- JCS
Looks make me want to buy a watch, but if the movement is a eg quartz with no recharging mechanism, it's a deal killer, on the other hand a ok or fruity looking watch with an interesting movement, would make me want to make a purchase.
Example: I am in love with lot of the new Zodiac designs, but the quartz movement kills it for me, on the other hand some not so great looking chinese Mechanical watches and Orient watches that don't fully fulfill my watch taste do make me want to pull out my wallet because they have a interesting power reserve complication
Casio EQW-M1000DB-1AER Solar Atomic Radio Sync 1/20th second Stopwatch
Citizen 8110A Automatic 2-register flyback chronograph 28,800bph
Casio PAW 1500T Titanium ABC Tide MoonGraph Radio Sync
Citizen Calibre 2100 Titanium Chronograph AV0021-52H
Invicta Corduba 7135 Skeletonized Miyota 8N24 21J Movt
Invicta Sapphire Ghost Skeletonized ETA 2824-2 Model 2701
Citizen Promaster Titanium AS4050-51E Radio Control Eco-Drive (Ultimate Nighthawk) **GRAIL STATUS**
Invicta SubAqua Noma III 4550 ETA 7751 **GRAIL STATUS**
Citizen Skyhawk AT Black Stainless Steel **GRAIL STATUS**
Citizen Skyhawk Stainless Steel
Casio G-Shock GW-1300A Solar Atomic
Casio Protrek PRG-70YT Black Titanium Triple Sensor
Casio SeaPathfinder SPF-70T Titanium Triple Sensor
Casio Protrek PRG-80T Titanium Triple Sensor
Poljot 31681 Movt Volmax Aviator III Mechanical Chronograph
Aviator 31681 / 3035268 Mechanical Chronograph
Movement is very important, but it could have the best movement in the world and look like crap and i wouldn't buy it.
This is why I don't buy quartz.
BALL Trainmaster Cleveland Express
LACO Pilot B Miyota
OMEGA Speedmaster 3510.21
SEA-GULL 1963 Re-issue
BREITLING Navitimer A13322
FORTIS B42 Flieger Day/Date
BALL Engineer II Moon Glow
ANONIMO DINO ZEI Narvalo
OMEGA Speedmaster 3506.61.00
BENARUS Moray 4 - Model B
neither, they are both equally important.
the official canadian time: http://time5.nrc.ca/webclock_e.shtml
The whole package is important.
Just like the lady you intend to spend/waste the rest of your life with.
I cant have one without the other. If a watch looks amazing but has a cheap movement I dont want it. That being said if a watch has an amazing inhouse movement but looks like crap I wont buy it either.
Both factors play into my decision with neither more heavily weighted.
a watch has metaphoric powers. It can function, for example, as a kind of [Self]-centric G.P.S. device. You put it on, and it gives you a lock on your own coordinates — not just time but space and self.
-NY times article on John Mayers watch collection
The Collection So Far...
Zenith Elite Port Royal 39mm- Currently on GF
Vintage Rolex Oyster Date 34mm
Orient CFM00004W 43mm
Bulova Day/Date quartz 34 mm
Lum-tec M42 Automatic (Phantom)
IWC Big Pilot
Breitling Transocean B01
Zenith striking 10th
Omega Seamaster GMT/Speedmaster
Rolex GMT Master IIc
Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso Grand GMT
and so many more....
Ah, I see I forgot one for looks. It's ugly duckly, a total misfit in my collection and I still bought it because I was digging the looks. A rose gold plated Invicta Pro-diver with Seamaster/Yachtmaster bezel and MOP dial. Crazy watch. Miyota movement that runs seriously fast. Movement itself is not bad but nothing special.
Of the 19 remaining watches I'd say that the taste verdict would tend to think the G-shocks and the Seiko/Casio digitals can't be said to be "stunningly beautiful". So you can take at least ten watched off. About 9 left. The Oris GMT TT1 would be a matter of taste. The Swatch (day/date) has a very simple look. I think it's beautiful but I really liked to find a cheap day/date.
The JLC, IWC, Cartier and Chronomaster are indeed real lookers but also have a movement character which is why I bought them.
The good thing is that at that level watches are rarely ugly. So you can make a movement decision and still get a beautiful watch.
As I said, functionality can be subsumed either in looks or in movement. Diver functionality would be looks, perpetual calendar would be movement.
Alan, thanks very much for moving the thread. It makes more sense in the Public Forum as gettocard rightly noticed.
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