I'm talking about watches that were, at one time, realistically available to you both financially and by proximity. Mine are these two: 1. A Zenith Elite, or maybe even a Chronomaster watch. This would have been in the late '90s, before they were available in the US and their design was still normal. 2. A Zremke black pvd chronograph watch; this one most of all. This was an Austrailian company that just disappeared a couple of years ago--too bad.