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    8500 Service Intervals

    So are they improved? Does the coaxil technology extend the time between required service intervals?

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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    I was told every 7 years at an AD. This link has some good info. A Progression of Movements: Omega 2500 & 8500 Calibers | Bernard Watch Blog

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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    Quote Originally Posted by heatscore View Post
    I was told every 7 years at an AD. This link has some good info. A Progression of Movements: Omega 2500 & 8500 Calibers | Bernard Watch Blog
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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    Why is the service intervals stated as 4-5 years in Omega official FAQ ???

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    I thought the whole point of the coaxial escapement was to elongate the service intervals ...

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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    Quote Originally Posted by kyloc View Post
    Why is the service intervals stated as 4-5 years in Omega official FAQ ???

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    I thought the whole point of the coaxial escapement was to elongate the service intervals ...
    Okay I'm going to put my flame suit on for this….
    There is no point to the coaxial escapement other than great marketing. In theory, its an "advancement" of sorts, but in real world practical terms…not so much. It's more complicated and harder to service, with the same recommended service intervals.
    If you live in a small city like me with very few independent watchmakers, good luck trying to find someone to service it. Especially now with Omega parts restrictions, most won't touch it with a 10 foot pole. It's Omega servicing or nothing.
    If I ever buy an Omega, it will be a non-coaxial Speedmaster with a trusty 861 or 1861 that any competent watchmaker can service.

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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    Quote Originally Posted by kyloc View Post
    Why is the service intervals stated as 4-5 years in Omega official FAQ ???

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    I thought the whole point of the coaxial escapement was to elongate the service intervals ...
    My understanding is, for 3 main reasons for Omega to want to be more conservative about the recommending a shorter service period,

    1. Not all Omega Auto have 8500, instead many still have older gen movement, e.g. 2500, etc.
    2. To reduce their liability.
    3. Omega probably end up being the only one who can service their co-axial movement, and more servicing brings in more data for Omega to understand how the watch withstand real world use from real customer, plus a little extra revenue.

    I personally have pretty strong conference on how robust the 8500 is. At least, just on the surface, 8500 does NOT have any of those glaring/obvious flaws the infamous 3135 has, which require really short (3 years) service intervals. The technical specs of 8500 is honestly industrial leading, a few AD I talked to even recommend 10 years service interval on these new 8500s.

    However, we will have to wait for TIME to prove its legend.

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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    Quote Originally Posted by velocityboy View Post
    Okay I'm going to put my flame suit on for this….
    There is no point to the coaxial escapement other than great marketing. In theory, its an "advancement" of sorts, but in real world practical terms…not so much. It's more complicated and harder to service, with the same recommended service intervals.
    If you live in a small city like me with very few independent watchmakers, good luck trying to find someone to service it. Especially now with Omega parts restrictions, most won't touch it with a 10 foot pole. It's Omega servicing or nothing.
    If I ever buy an Omega, it will be a non-coaxial Speedmaster with a trusty 861 or 1861 that any competent watchmaker can service.
    Sorry man, what you said makes no sense. The technical advantage of co-axial is so obvious, please do some homework first. Why would I want to save a few bucks by sending a 8500 to a local watchmaker? NO thanks, I prefer Omega's specialist handle it
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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    I feel disappointed ... I remember the whole point of the co axial was to elongate the service intervals ... Now it is a complication without a real benefit
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark.altern View Post
    Sorry man, what you said makes no sense. The technical advantage of co-axial is so obvious, please do some homework first. Why would I want to save a few bucks by sending a 8500 to a local watchmaker? NO thanks, I prefer Omega's specialist handle it
    Well, we've established the service interval hasn't improved. Accuracy then? Smaller? Nope.
    If there's a practical benefit at this stage, I don't see it.
    Using indepedant watchmakers isn't just about saving money (although that's a benefit). It's about having the choice if I don't want Omega servicing it.
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    Re: 8500 Service Intervals

    Quote Originally Posted by velocityboy View Post
    Well, we've established the service interval hasn't improved.
    nope, not established at all, 8500 was first introduced in 2007, there is simply not enough data at this moment, to illustrate how well/bad the 8500 does after 7 years. However, there is NO story/evidence/data anywhere to show anything bad about 8500 so far, which is a good sign

    All that you have said above is merely your opinions/feelings, not real data/facts.

    Like I said, time will prove 8500's legend, given its impressive specs on the paper and how confident Omega is advertising it. I have no difficult seeing it proved a much more robust movement than 3135 after 20 years
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