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    Bond Seamaster Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeltown View Post
    Kinda cool, but $9,200 is out of the question. It retails for more than a new Submariner. I would rather buy 2 stainless steel SMPs.
    And $150 MORE than MSRP of a Hulk! (lack of availability aside)


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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by carlhaluss View Post

    Again, I am absolutely delighted that one Seamaster 300 has a SOLID CASE BACK

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    I’m with you here. I just don’t get the point of display case backs — I never take my watch off, so it’s pretty useless to me. My SMPgmt has a display case back and it does nothing but increase the watches’ thickness.

    I do like this watch quite a lot. If it had a gmt complication, I’d be all over it in a heartbeat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by solesman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonymousmoose View Post
    Nope, HE makes it what it is
    Agree to disagree [IMG class=inlineimg]https://forums.watchuseek.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif[/IMG]


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    I understand what anonymousmoose is saying. The helium escape valve is a design characteristic that is an inherent part of the Seamaster Professional 300's make up.

    Along with other design characteristics that some might consider ugly or useless, the HEV is what makes the iconic Seamaster Pro so recognizable to many. I'm referring to the "outdated" bracelet, wave dial, and the scalloped bezel.

    If OMEGA were to change or "update" all these characteristics, the Seamaster Pro would cease being...well, the Seamaster Pro.

    ROLEX is highly respected and praised in the watch world for doing exactly the opposite of what some people think OMEGA should be doing. They can go for decades without making any changes to their iconic models. Then, when changes do come, they are so slight as to not change the time proven essence of the watch.

    I personally think OMEGA are on the right track by trying to maintain the foundations of their iconic models. While the design of the Seamaster Pro isn't to everyone's liking, it's all part of the hobby. In my opinion, if OMEGA were to follow a lot of the design suggestions from us, all watches would start looking too similar.

    There are enough other models and limited editions in OMEGA's line-up to please most people. And for the rest, well, you can't please all the people all of the time.

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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan II View Post
    I understand what anonymousmoose is saying. The helium escape valve is a design characteristic that is an inherent part of the Seamaster 300 Professional's make up.

    Along with other design characteristics that some might consider ugly or useless, the HEV is what makes the iconic Seamaster Pro so recognizable to many. I'm referring to the "outdated" bracelet, wave dial, and the scalloped bezel.

    If OMEGA were to change or "update" all these characteristics, the Seamaster Pro would cease being...well, the Seamaster Pro.

    ROLEX is highly respected and praised in the watch world for doing exactly the opposite of what some people think OMEGA should be doing. They can go for decades without making any changes to their iconic models. Then, when changes do come, they are so slight as to not change the time proven essence of the watch.

    I personally think OMEGA are on the right track by trying to maintain the foundations of their iconic models. While the design of the Seamaster Pro isn't to everyone's liking, it's all part of the hobby. In my opinion, if OMEGA were to follow a lot of the design suggestions from us, all watches would start looking too similar.

    There are enough other models and limited editions in OMEGA's line-up to please most people. And for the rest, well, you can't please all the people all of the time.

    René
    Well put. It's funny, aesthetically and functionally I prefer the sword-hands models that were released in the early 2000s to the Bond designs in terms of the hands and bracelet - I am wearing a Great White as I type this - but there's no question that the basic Brosnan-era Seamaster design has become iconic, and its basic attributes (the wave dial, skeleton hands, and distinctive bracelet) are defining ones for modern Seamasters.
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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by carlhaluss View Post
    Well, as you guys all know, over the years, or decades actually, I have been a staunch supporter of Omega. Even during times when I have started to doubt them myself. One might even say, one of the most loyal fans on this forum. Lots of it is for the emotional side, watching the Moon Landing with my Dad and my family having worn Omega watches over the years. But one can only turn the other cheek for so long.

    This Seamaster 300M 007 Edition is a rip-off to not just me, but to a loyal client base. I just feel I can no longer support the brand. They do make very good watches. But so do other companies. I don’t mind spending good money, but when I feel I am being taken advantage of or ripped off, I have to get out.

    The sale of my Trilogy pieces and my FOIS will go a long way to funding another watch, maybe even two or maybe one expensive one. But they will have to be watches where I can see honest value.

    Basically, I am done with Omega. I have had tons of fun along the way, but it’s time to move on. I have made a few lifelong friends at the Omega Boutique who will always be my friends regardless. And same goes for my friends on this forum.

    Cheers,
    Carl
    That's quite a change in one thread. I may have missed what changed your mind.
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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    After having time to mull over this one for a couple of days I have some thoughts as to what would make it perfect in my eyes (not much relevance here, just some random musings):

    --Go ceramic. Keep the brown "tropical" color, and keep it muted not shiny (if possible).
    --Lose the HE valve
    --I know I may be in the minority here, but I say sword hands
    --For the bracelet, go for something classic, but with a rugged look. Something like the look of when people put 1171 bracelets on a Speedmaster, but with modern fit and finish and micro-adjust. Keep everything in Ti though, because I think the duller (for lack of a better word) finish of Titanium goes well with the brown and overall aesthetic.
    --Finally, knock about 2k off the price

    Now, would this still even be a SMP? Perhaps not, but it would certainly be on my want list.

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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by carlhaluss View Post
    Well, as you guys all know, over the years, or decades actually, I have been a staunch supporter of Omega. Even during times when I have started to doubt them myself. One might even say, one of the most loyal fans on this forum. Lots of it is for the emotional side, watching the Moon Landing with my Dad and my family having worn Omega watches over the years. But one can only turn the other cheek for so long.

    This Seamaster 300M 007 Edition is a rip-off to not just me, but to a loyal client base. I just feel I can no longer support the brand. They do make very good watches. But so do other companies. I don’t mind spending good money, but when I feel I am being taken advantage of or ripped off, I have to get out.

    The sale of my Trilogy pieces and my FOIS will go a long way to funding another watch, maybe even two or maybe one expensive one. But they will have to be watches where I can see honest value.

    Basically, I am done with Omega. I have had tons of fun along the way, but it’s time to move on. I have made a few lifelong friends at the Omega Boutique who will always be my friends regardless. And same goes for my friends on this forum.

    Cheers,
    Carl
    Quote Originally Posted by Betterthere View Post
    That's quite a change in one thread. I may have missed what changed your mind.
    Carl and I (and Betterthere) are of the same ... ahem, vintage. I've been wearing Omegas for more than a half-century. And, like Carl, I have groused on this forum about Omega's persistent dalliance with dilettantism (their ADD influenced product stability, their fascination with gimmicks and fads, including satellite dish-sized watches, or their fawning obsequiousness toward "celebrity" spokespersons). And, like Carl, I have flirted with renouncing the brand altogether. But ...

    I really can't go that far. I love the Omega I have and wear most often. My wife loves her two-tone Constellation. Yes, there are more Rolex models I'd like to have than Omega models, but there at least are Omega models I might still acquire (although I am incensed that the models I like continue to be billed by Omega as "ladies" models, because I am through with wrist frisbees). And thanks to Topper, I can acquire those Omegas for a fraction of what I'd pay a grey-marketeer (like DavidSW, who once sold affordable Rolexes, but now milks the "SS-craze above-retail markups" for all they're worth).

    These ridiculous paeans to James Bond have always evoked much eye-rolling here on WUSOF, but at least this is the last James Bond special edition (how they navigate "007" editions in the future without James Bond is anyone's guess).

    Carl has some really nice Omegas. If he has tired of them (hey, it happens to all of us horological philanderers ), then selling them makes much sense. But if he still likes them, I hope he will hold on to them until the "Bond revulsion" has passed. They might then get years more wear.

    As someone who has bought and sold well more than 100 watches in the last decade, I see Omega's design failings as a boon for my bank account. If they came out with lots of delectable choices every spring, my financial security in retirement might be threatened.
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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    OMG I could never wear this. I can safely say there's absolutely nothing I like about this piece.

    Dull titanium, skeleton hands, mesh not matching the style of the case, terrible/ghastly/dreadful fauxtina. MOD/007 and all that cheesy sh**.

    Overall it looks so artificial. It's trying way too hard to look vintage and cool, but unfortunately fails miserably, not that it's a good idea in the first place. Don't be ashamed of what you are, a modern timepiece. Don't try to look older than you are, it's fu***** ridiculous.

    Let watches age naturally and beautifully. Don't cheat time, don't jump the gun, OMEGA.

    Full disclosure, I own a PO2500C 45.5 "Casino Royale" since 2005, my first and last Bond watch at this pace.
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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by Betterthere View Post
    That's quite a change in one thread. I may have missed what changed your mind.
    Common sense prevailed! I was ecstatic when I first saw the watch. When I actually took the time to learn all I could about it, including price and value, it started to dawn on me. Just as many people on these forums are enablers, they are also guys who have valuable opinions, and sometimes it takes reading a few threads to realize that maybe my initial quick evaluation of a watch bears a lot more thought.

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    Re: Bond Seamaster Reveal

    Quote Originally Posted by iinsic View Post
    Carl and I (and Betterthere) are of the same ... ahem, vintage. I've been wearing Omegas for more than a half-century. And, like Carl, I have groused on this forum about Omega's persistent dalliance with dilettantism (their ADD influenced product stability, their fascination with gimmicks and fads, including satellite dish-sized watches, or their fawning obsequiousness toward "celebrity" spokespersons). And, like Carl, I have flirted with renouncing the brand altogether. But ...

    I really can't go that far. I love the Omega I have and wear most often. My wife loves her two-tone Constellation. Yes, there are more Rolex models I'd like to have than Omega models, but there at least are Omega models I might still acquire (although I am incensed that the models I like continue to be billed by Omega as "ladies" models, because I am through with wrist frisbees). And thanks to Topper, I can acquire those Omegas for a fraction of what I'd pay a grey-marketeer (like DavidSW, who once sold affordable Rolexes, but now milks the "SS-craze above-retail markups" for all they're worth).

    These ridiculous paeans to James Bond have always evoked much eye-rolling here on WUSOF, but at least this is the last James Bond special edition (how they navigate "007" editions in the future without James Bond is anyone's guess).

    Carl has some really nice Omegas. If he has tired of them (hey, it happens to all of us horological philanderers ), then selling them makes much sense. But if he still likes them, I hope he will hold on to them until the "Bond revulsion" has passed. They might then get years more wear.

    As someone who has bought and sold well more than 100 watches in the last decade, I see Omega's design failings as a boon for my bank account. If they came out with lots of delectable choices every spring, my financial security in retirement might be threatened.
    Lots of good comments! I was out for most of the day, and when I came home my Railmaster was lying on my bedside table. Which I wore with pride, along with a new crocodile leather strap I got, last night at the Omega Boutique Christmas party. I do really like the watch and, yes, it and my FOIS I will definitely hang on to, at least for the time being. Perhaps in time I will find a peace with Omega. A similar thing happened to me with Panerai recently (not the scenario but the feeling), and I made my peace by realizing it takes way more energy to be angry and negative than to try and find a positive compromise. Only time will tell.

    I do feel very strongly that Omega is taking unfair advantage with the 007, of course if someone loves the watch and is willing to pay the price, and gets enjoyment out of it, then I am not criticizing them personally. I think that the morally correct thing for Omega to do (which, of course, will never, ever happen) is to admit they have grossly inflated the price of this model, and a fair price would be more like a grand or even two over the regular model (I am talking in Canadian$ here, where the price difference is 5 grand).

    Anyway, I am sure you guys are tired of my rants, so that's it for now! Hope you all have a great weekend.

    Cheers,
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