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    Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    I started a similar thread about a year ago, but lately Iíve been thinking about it again...Trading my PO2500 for a Speedy Pro.

    When I look at my PO2500, I keep thinking, for whatever reason, that Iíd like something with a little more pedigree...Yes, the PO has a few Bond movies (which Omega paid for the spot), but the Speedmaster went to the frigginí moon! If that doesnít speak to toughness, I donít know what does.

    I also like the idea that the Speedy Pro is essentially the exact same design as it was back in the 60s. To me, thatís a sign of a good thing that doesnít need changing. Look at the Rolex Sub as an example. Rolex has not had to make any real drastic changes since it came out. However, for whatever reason, Omega keeps changing their PO design (trying to fight Rolex??), and to some extent, the SMP designs too. And, the newest PO8500, imo, has gotten just too big. I know Iím in the minority, but to me the Speedy doesnít live in the shadow of a Rolex like the PO does (please donít crucify me for saying it). Again, just my opinion, but the black Sub seems to be the go-to diver in most peoples eyes. I must say though I think Omega has a real winner with the AT8500. To me, that watch certainly stands on its own.

    Iíve also gone swimming with my PO a few times. And because Iím paranoid about the only $3K plus watch I can permit myself to have, I keep looking down to make sure moisture hasnít gone in it. So really, Iím not comfortable swimming with my Omega anyway, so why have a 600m capable diver? If ever I return for a beach vacation, will I be comfortable swimming in the ocean with such an expensive watch?...No way, because I canít afford to replace it if lost. With a Speedy, Iíd be forced to take it off and keep it in a safe place.

    Although I was wearing my PO when my second son was born, heís not going to remember it. My eldest likes to turn the bezel, but heíd probably like the chrono function on the Speedy too (ďlook dad, the hands are spinning!Ē). Either watch, Speedy or PO, they will make great watches to pass along to the kids.

    The Speedy doesnít have a date function, which is my biggest concern. But, if heard of people using the seconds hand on the chrono for that if the date is that important. Besides, I sit at a computer and have my phone with me all the time. Knowing the date is never that difficult. Would I be able to adapt?

    Auto vs. Manual. That also worries me. Will I get tired of winding each morning? However, I'm looking at getting another automatic Hamilton to share daily duties with whatever Omega I have, so will it bother me that much just a few days per week?

    Finally, I find the Speedy looks amazing on straps, both brown and black, as well as the bracelet. Iím also of the opinion that a diver on leather just doesnít work, even though it may look good.

    Anyway, Iím just venting my thoughts on you guys and gals this morning. I feel like Iím at a crossroads with my PO. Thanks for listening...euh, reading. I certainly welcome any comments.
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    Re: Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    This is a tried and tested method - buy what you enjoy. It's that simple. I've purchased a few watches where I thought, "well, other people like this, so by default I should buy it and like it." If you like the Speedy Pro more, then flip the PO and buy one. Plenty of great deals on the second hand market for a 3570. To make things even better, your version PO is in demand, so you'll find a buyer quickly.
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    Re: Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    If youíre still thinking about it, then maybe your heart is already telling you the answer.

    But if I were to address a few of the points in your post, Iíd say the following..

    With regards to the date function. I recently just acquired a speedy and my daily wear before that was an SMP. On my speedy days I donít really miss the date, as you say we're surrounded by computers and phones. Also, I canít think of any times in life that something very bad happens because one canít remember the date :P

    A gift to your kid down the line is a lovely gesture, but itís going to be your watch for a long long time, so its important you enjoy it and you like it. Iím sure theyíll appreciate whatever gift you bestow upon them in future.


    No difference between winding and auto, some people make a huge deal of it, but we are literally talking about a little over 30 seconds work in the morning to wind her.

    As to Rolexís shadow, the speedyís history and peopleís perceptionsÖ. I wouldnít worry about which has the best value in other peopleís eyes, really itís you who is most important, go with what you want and what gives you pleasure. People outside our little watch world probably wouldnít know a speedy from a sub or their histories either.
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    Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    I really like the 2500 PO and agree that outside of the technical feats, the newer version(s) are getting less desirable for me.

    But all that said, if the speedy sings to you, go get it. It's definitely Omega's most iconic piece and initial claim to fame.

    There's nothing lost with enjoying a certain watch for awhile (perhaps even years) and then making a move to flip it for another more desirable piece for you (with maybe the exception of a loss of money on the resale. But who buys a watch to make money?). Tastes can easily change with time.

    The only thing I raise my eyebrow on your post is fear of swimming with the PO! It's a dive watch, man! Gotta take it in the ocean, diving preferably! The PO can take a beating and still come out pristine. Okay, okay enough of me giving you a hard time about that.

    Good luck with whatever you do! Post pics of your new speedmaster if you end up making the switch. Cheers!
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    Re: Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by IWANTASEAMASTER View Post
    I’ve also gone swimming with my PO a few times. And because I’m paranoid about the only $3K plus watch I can permit myself to have, I keep looking down to make sure moisture hasn’t gone in it. So really, I’m not comfortable swimming with my Omega anyway, so why have a 600m capable diver? If ever I return for a beach vacation, will I be comfortable swimming in the ocean with such an expensive watch?...No way, because I can’t afford to replace it if lost. With a Speedy, I’d be forced to take it off and keep it in a safe place.
    I've taken my PO Chrono scuba diving, as have plenty of other PO owners. They can take it, don't sweat it. It's what they were designed for!

    I personally would think twice about leaving a Speedy in a hotel room while you're at the beach. I would rather be wearing the expensive watch than risk having it stolen. Either way, make sure it's covered on your home insurance just in case something does happen.
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    Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by guitarfan View Post
    I've taken my PO Chrono scuba diving, as have plenty of other PO owners. They can take it, don't sweat it. It's what they were designed for! .
    Preach it guitarfan! Scuba dived with my PO as well...never an issue. POs deserve the ocean! ; )
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    Re: Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    I think you are on the right track. If you still own the Speedy Pro 30 years from now, it will still look great on your wrist. If you still own the PO it will likely look quite dated. Of course, there's noting wrong with flipping the PO down the line for a newer Omega dive watch either. But if you want time tested appeal and watch geek pedigree, you are definitely on the right track with the Speedy Pro...
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    Re: Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    Can you buy the speedy without flipping the PO? Good second hand prices that are not too hard on the pocketbook if you save a little. The gen 1 PO will be a very desirable model down the road. I' went through the same dilemma a few years back but no way was I parting with my 2254 or PO to get the speedy. Now I have all 3. The speedy is a great, great watch. You will not regret buying one but you will regret selling the PO.
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    Re: Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by Kluber View Post
    Preach it guitarfan! Scuba dived with my PO as well...never an issue. POs deserve the ocean! ; )
    Iím actually planning on going on my first scuba dive experience soon, Iím actually really looking forward to wearing my 2222.80 SMP on the dive....

    When Iíve snorkelled before, I love the fact that the crystal acts like a mirror if you catch it at a shallow angle under water.

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    Still thinking about it...long thread, sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by amc22 View Post
    Iím actually planning on going on my first scuba dive experience soon, Iím actually really looking forward to wearing my 2222.80 SMP on the dive....

    When Iíve snorkelled before, I love the fact that the crystal acts like a mirror if you catch it at a shallow angle under water.

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    A bit OT, but are you going through a certifying course or recreational diving? Either way, that's awesome! Diving is an extremely fun activity.

    However, while it's definitely not rocket science by any means, there will be a lot going on if you are taking an open water course and have never dove before.

    If so, I'd likely take another dive watch beater just as you could struggle a bit with buoyancy until you get the hang of it. That and being on a boat (if you are diving off a boat and not used to it) is when easy/careless things could happen to your watch as your focus will be (and of course should be) on adhering to safe diving practices.

    Others may disagree and I know you were not soliciting my advice so just food for thought. But with my (humble) experience with scuba diving, I'd leave the SMP at home for your first time out - less to do with the watch, more to do with first time diving. Hope I don't come off as "Debbie Downer" - scuba diving is awesome and it's great you are going to do it for the first time soon.

    OP, sorry to interrupt your thread.
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