Vintage speedy - Advice please!
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    Vintage speedy - Advice please!

    Ok so I am looking at getting a vintage speedy and want some advice on which one to plum for, I don't want to spend more than about £4k.

    My main question is .321 or .861? Is there really a desirable difference?


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    Re: Vintage speedy - Advice please!

    at your price cap you are probably looking for an 861. for that you should be able to find a nice pre-moon, transitional AML 861.

    145.022 Transitional | Speedmaster101

    The Quick And Dirty Way to Buy (Well, Check) a 145.022 | Speedmaster101

    enjoy the search!
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    Re: Vintage speedy - Advice please!

    I don't mean this in a rude way at all, but if you're asking which to buy, it sounds like you might want to do some more research regarding the differences. You are kind of on the cusp in that price range where you might be able to find an 'ok' 145.012 or other 321 model that has incorrect or replacement parts, or you could find a really good 861. You should read up on the differences and determine what is most important to you.

    Personally, I really like the the longer indices and applied metal logo of the 321 dials (and transitional), but the 861 does have its merits in being much easier and less expensive to get parts for and service.

    When considering vintage Speedy's, Moonwatch Only is a great resource and can pay for itself by educating you in what to look for, if originality and correctness is important to you. You might also head over to, there is a ton of great information on vintage speedmasters there as well.

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    Re: Vintage speedy - Advice please!

    ^what he said exactly

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