Lol what on earth? That's new! "Mrs Wiggles" lol idk what hat you pulled that from? What are you talking about there? Banned recently? I have not used this forum since 2017. A king turtle in my country is $1400.00. Not good value considering a Sumo can be had for the same. Who are you and what are you on? As for walls of text? What?? Maybe you need to revisit your post man lol Idk what you are on about. Just came back after a three year hiatus to post some thoughts on the new king turtle and where Seiko seems to be going with regard to overall quality and pricing in their low to mid price range offerings.