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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Word..

    That's completely epic. Thanks for the incredible photos!


    ( On accuracy though.. especially given it's assembled by the GS peeps, couldn't someone take a little extra time to get it roughly to GS/COSC specs.. No need for the whole testing & certification circus, but a dude with a screwdriver and an 8L movement should really be getting closer than +10. I mean my SKX007 managed that. )
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    Great writeup and beautiful pictures.
    I could manage to see it in person at my watchmakers store and its georgous. The saphire cristal memeing a plexi is just superb.
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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Awesome pictures as usual!
    I think this just ends my desire for another diver...... dome/lug holes/below 40
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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelller View Post
    There's also little doubt that the Quartz giant played a definitive role in the dive-computer era, including the first Dive computer in 1990.

    Superb pictures and excellent write-up, but it's misleading to say that the first dive computor was made by Seiko in 1990. They were invented much earlier in the 50's but were unreliable and expensive. Technology improved in the 70's and companies specialising in dive equipment like Orca, Dacor, Uwatec and Suunto, U.S. Divers and Tabata/TUSA started making them available reasonably priced for recreational diving by the mid to late 80's when they were the big thing for divers to have. Suunto is still one of the leading manufacturers and the only one I can think of that makes digital adventure type watches as well as dive computors. AFAIK they started first with dive computors before later making watches.
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    Damasko> DS30 GrandSeiko> SBGH205 Rolex> 114060 Seiko> SARB017, SARB033, SBDX017, SLA017.

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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelller View Post

    The 8L35 has a PR of 50hrs and suggested accuracy of 10-/15+ (vs. the 6R15 rated at 10-/25+). Mine seems to be currently around +10s but I haven't worn it enough and expect it to settle a little, maybe down to +6~7s which is more than satisfactory. My SM300MC and Seadweller 16600 are also in this range so there's no reason for concern. Besides the reasonable accuracy, the movement has essentially been in production for 20 years without any major modifications.
    I suppose I've been lucky with my SLA017 at around +3.25spd, whereas my SBDX017 MM300 is around +7.5spd which I consider still quite acceptable.

    One thing I've found is that the 8L35B in my MM is extremely consistent and hardly varies with position so cannot be 'regulated' overnight like some of Seiko's lesser movements. My MM300 has maintained almost exactly the same rate, slowing 0.5spd (at most!) from day one and didn't 'settle down' to get any slower like the 6R15 watches normally do in the first weeks. My SLA is still too new to tell but accuracy has also slowed around 0.5spd in the first 48 hours since I got it about 10 days ago so it might be a bit optimistic to hope that it will slow any more significantly in the coming weeks.

    The 8L35 is now 8L35B first used in the SBDX017, signifying use of new MEMs technology in the balance wheel, pallet fork and escape wheel. and it's also supposed to be a decorated movement compared to the previous-gen 8L35A (I haven't opened up the caseback to check but this is what I understand).

    I'm not sure whether those qualify as 'major modification' or not.


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    Damasko> DS30 GrandSeiko> SBGH205 Rolex> 114060 Seiko> SARB017, SARB033, SBDX017, SLA017.

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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelller View Post
    The 62MAS Re-Issue


    Annex: The great bracelet debate
    A.K.A. bracelet-gate...
    There's quite a bit of disappointment in the community regarding the supplied bracelet. It's not as functional as the one provided with the current production MM300 and some even consider it to be of inferior construction. You will find more than enough trash-talk over at the "SLA017 owner thread". In my personal opinion, the bracelet was an afterthought. In any event, I would grade it as the same level of quality as the one that came with my €300 Steinhart...

    Seiko's offering...








    Steinhart's - for all intent and purposes, identical



    Great write up! Though I think the bracelet of the SLA017 is not that bad and a much better one than the Steinhart one you show.

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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Excellent review and stunning pictures.
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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Great words and rather exquisite pics.
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    Re: SLA017 (SBDX019) The 62MAS Re-Issue: A Pictorial

    Fabulous pictures!

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    Nice writeup and close up shots. How'ed you manage to get Serial Number 0000?
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