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    Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    What will happens to Tudor if it never associate with Rolex?

    Will Tudor survive the quartz crisis? Will you even give Tudor a look if it has nothing to do with Rolex? Is association with Rolex is the reason for some to go for Tudor but without burning a deeper hole for some Rolex lineage?
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    Re: Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Tudor makes a fantastic watch regardless of its affiliation with Rolex. There were goofy models in its lifetime, but plenty of iconic ones, including the Sub, Prince Dates, Tiger Prince Chronos, Heritage Chronos, Date-Days, DJs and the latest Black Bays and Pelogoses. Sure, they are heavily influenced by Rolex and many of those models could not exist without Rolex in the picture, but if your question includes whether its models would exist if Rolex was not affiliated, then it would unravel the “tapestry” of the whole brand and cause the question to be senseless.
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    Re: Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Noone would have cared about Tudor without its association with Rolex.
    Tudor brand exists to be a little more affordable brother.

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    Re: Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Well, I was influenced by the Rolex Datejust models.
    I got the idea to buy this Tudor Date because I wanted a Datejust like watch without the cyclops eye and I prefer an ETA movement, and, Rolex don't have any 38 mm models.
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    Re: Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Quote Originally Posted by playinwittime View Post
    Tudor makes a fantastic watch regardless of its affiliation with Rolex. There were goofy models in its lifetime, but plenty of iconic ones, including the Sub, Prince Dates, Tiger Prince Chronos, Heritage Chronos, Date-Days, DJs and the latest Black Bays and Pelogoses. Sure, they are heavily influenced by Rolex and many of those models could not exist without Rolex in the picture, but if your question includes whether its models would exist if Rolex was not affiliated, then it would unravel the “tapestry” of the whole brand and cause the question to be senseless.
    Not really, there are many great watch companies like Longines, Universal who make great watches but didnt survive the onslaught of quartz crisis. They are currently pale shadow of their history.
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    Re: Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Quote Originally Posted by v1triol View Post
    Noone would have cared about Tudor without its association with Rolex.
    Tudor brand exists to be a little more affordable brother.
    Quite agreed with your statement. I bet Tudor wouldnt even tide over quartz crisis if its not the little brother of Rolex.

    But not to whitewash Tudor current effort. Their designs are slowly shifting into an identify of their own and less to do with Rolex. But without the Rolex association, it can never be as successful as now and maybe just another universal watch brand that vanish into history and never has the chance to strike its own in current era. Until now, some buy Tudor becos its associate with Rolex brand and quality.
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    Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triton9 View Post
    What will happens to Tudor if it never associate with Rolex?

    Will Tudor survive the quartz crisis? Will you even give Tudor a look if it has nothing to do with Rolex? Is association with Rolex is the reason for some to go for Tudor but without burning a deeper hole for some Rolex lineage?
    I think it survived just fine. Long before Tudor made its way to America, Hans Wilsdorf had already been selling Tudor in other parts of the world,e.g. Australia and the Far East. They’ve made their money in these countries much like how Nissan made a cheaper version of their cars called Datsun to be sold in low cost markets.

    Some interesting reading here on Tudor in Australia https://timeandtidewatches.com/the-a...tudor-watches/

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    Re: Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triton9 View Post
    What will happens to Tudor if it never associate with Rolex?

    Will Tudor survive the quartz crisis? Will you even give Tudor a look if it has nothing to do with Rolex? Is association with Rolex is the reason for some to go for Tudor but without burning a deeper hole for some Rolex lineage?
    But the fact is Tudor is related to Rolex from day 1 in their existence. How can you prove a negative?

    And I also believe if you ask someone from the North American market vs someone from Europe or Asia the answer will be very different. Tudor pulled away from the American market in 1996 and as such a lot of the younger generation watch buyers (20+ demographic) have no idea what Tudor is, until Tudor reintroduced itself to the USA in 2013.

    Meanwhile the brand was still sold in the rest of the world through that time alongside Rolex. So to "the rest of us" the brand was always here.

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    Re: Will Tudor be successful if it never associate with Rolex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbert_is_fat View Post
    I think it survived just fine. Long before Tudor made its way to America, Hans Wilsdorf had already been selling Tudor in other parts of the world,e.g. Australia and the Far East. They’ve made their money in these countries much like how Nissan made a cheaper version of their cars called Datsun to be sold in low cost markets.

    Some interesting reading here on Tudor in Australia https://timeandtidewatches.com/the-a...tudor-watches/
    That period longines and universal were also doing well and in fact were considered the same level with Rolex.

    Are we going to claim they make watches not as good as tudor? Their quality are dire crap compare to Tudor? I don't think that is the valid reason for Tudor to survive and beat the quartz crisis.
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