Question about the Movement used in the Fireman Night Train

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    Question about the Movement used in the Fireman Night Train

    I figure the title I used previously might be confusing so I am posting this question again. The Night Train use Ball Cal. 124. Which I assume is a modified ETA 2824. Jeremy once mentioned that all Ball Caliber are based on "Top" grade ETA movement. The other models using ETA movement are simply equipped with "Elabore" grade movement. Below is a some of difference between "Elabore" grade 2824 and "Top" grade 2824, taken from the ETA datasheet.

    Elabore/ Top
    Barrel spring Nivaflex NO/ Nivaflex NM
    Shock absorber Etachocs/ Incabloc
    Pallet stones Poyruby/ Red ruby
    Balance wheel Nickel gilt/ Glucydur gilt
    Hair-spring Nivarox 2/ Anachron
    Adjustment 3-position/ 5-position
    Average rate (+-7s/d) / (+-4s/d)

    So, there's a huge difference between a Elabore grade 2824 and a Top grade 2824. I would like to know which grade of 2824 is used in the Firemen Night train. I suppose some brave soul who remove the back of their night train and look at the shape of the balance wheel would immediately solve the mystery. But I don't imagine many night train owner would entertained by this idea. So would anybody from Ball, perhaps Jeremy shed some light on this? Thank you.

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    Re: Question about the Movement used in the Fireman Night Train

    Anyone have any comment? I notice unlike other watch forum, movement is rarely discussed here. Isn't the movement supposed to be the heart and soul of any mechanical timepiece? I think it deserves more attention.

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    Re: Question about the Movement used in the Fireman Night Train

    Hi Chuen,

    I'll do a bit of research and hopefully I can have an answer for you early next week.

    Regards,
    Jeremy

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    Re: Question about the Movement used in the Fireman Night Train

    Quote Originally Posted by ballwatch View Post
    Hi Chuen,

    I'll do a bit of research and hopefully I can have an answer for you early next week.

    Regards,
    Jeremy
    Hi Jeremy,
    Thanks. I'm looking forward to your reply.
    Last edited by chuen; October 10th, 2007 at 10:56.

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    Re: Question about the Movement used in the Fireman Night Train

    Hi:
    I'm not sure on the movement details but my new night train is running dead on within the last 24 hrs. I know that as time goes by the accuracy my change however I'm impressed with the out of the box results.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Question about the Movement used in the Fireman Night Train

    Quote Originally Posted by ballwatch View Post
    Hi Chuen,

    I'll do a bit of research and hopefully I can have an answer for you early next week.

    Regards,
    Jeremy

    Hey Jeremy:

    any further info available on this question. As 2 of our 3 Balls are Ball Caliber (968 and 124), I too am quite curious.
    kind regards,

    scott

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