656 vs. 856 - cost benefit analysis

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    656 vs. 856 - cost benefit analysis

    I've always felt that cost was a second place to function. I believe that the right tool for the job is good value even if the price is high. I'm in the market for a very sturdy tool watch for work, play and leisure. Something that can handle office casual desk work, climbing ladders and doing maintenance, ski patrol duty in winter and still dress up for a date. I'm also inclined towards getting one great all around watch instead of a few middle range specialists.

    The 856 has IMO a better SW300 movement compared to the 656's ETA 2824 movement. It also brings a bit larger case size, tegemented case and Sinn Ar dehumidifying technology
    656 = $1,100 (estimate for used price + overhaul)
    856 = $1,610 (before Watchbuys raises the price on September 1)

    What do you WIS think? Sit online and wait for a 656 to pop up or spend $510 extra for a new 856 before the price increase?

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    Re: 656 vs. 856 - cost benefit analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by t3hite View Post
    I've always felt that cost was a second place to function. I believe that the right tool for the job is good value even if the price is high. I'm in the market for a very sturdy tool watch for work, play and leisure. Something that can handle office casual desk work, climbing ladders and doing maintenance, ski patrol duty in winter and still dress up for a date. I'm also inclined towards getting one great all around watch instead of a few middle range specialists.

    The 856 has IMO a better SW300 movement compared to the 656's ETA 2824 movement. It also brings a bit larger case size, tegemented case and Sinn Ar dehumidifying technology
    656 = $1,100 (estimate for used price + overhaul)
    856 = $1,610 (before Watchbuys raises the price on September 1)

    What do you WIS think? Sit online and wait for a 656 to pop up or spend $510 extra for a new 856 before the price increase?
    When you can buy a decent, reliable watch for $150 - $400, this purchase
    cannot be justified on the basis of cost/benefit, in my opinion. It requires
    some mental adjustment. You have to want those particular features
    offered by one watch and be prepared to spend for that extravagance.

    Most of us have to live on a budget. Since you are examining the cost
    carefully, I suggest waiting for the watch you seek to appear on the
    sales forum. That watch should be running correctly and not need a
    service when it arrives.

    Aside from the price it seems you prefer the Sinn 856. So, I suggest
    shopping for that first.

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    Re: 656 vs. 856 - cost benefit analysis

    Based on your activity description, I would get neither Sinn, but instead the Damasko DA36 (or a similar Damasko) with its ice-hardened case. And I would probably order it with only interior AR on the crystal, as the outer AR is prone to smudging and scratching. But if you're set on a Sinn, I'd get the 856.

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    Re: 656 vs. 856 - cost benefit analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by t3hite View Post
    I've always felt that cost was a second place to function. I believe that the right tool for the job is good value even if the price is high. I'm in the market for a very sturdy tool watch for work, play and leisure. Something that can handle office casual desk work, climbing ladders and doing maintenance, ski patrol duty in winter and still dress up for a date. I'm also inclined towards getting one great all around watch instead of a few middle range specialists.

    The 856 has IMO a better SW300 movement compared to the 656's ETA 2824 movement. It also brings a bit larger case size, tegemented case and Sinn Ar dehumidifying technology
    656 = $1,100 (estimate for used price + overhaul)
    856 = $1,610 (before Watchbuys raises the price on September 1)

    What do you WIS think? Sit online and wait for a 656 to pop up or spend $510 extra for a new 856 before the price increase?
    Things to consider with the 856, you get a larger watch with a hardened case and dehumidifying tech. From the photo above of my arm with the 856, I have *really* small wrists, less than 6", just to put it's size into perspective. So if your wrists are large, keep that in mind that the 656 may be too small, depending of course on tastes.

    The AR on mine is flawless, wearing it very frequently for over a year, and I can honestly say there is no problem with the AR on this watch. AR problems are hopefully a problem of the past but is definitely one thing to keep than in mind when buying older used.

    Also, the case is a tank, there are no marks anywhere on it and the hardening works as advertised. The tegimented strap has some marks where the links and clasp connect up, not noticeable unless looking, and has held up far better than a stainless strap.

    The 656 is a nice, just missing the case hardening, dehumidifying capsule and slightly smaller.

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    Re: 656 vs. 856 - cost benefit analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by t3hite View Post
    What do you WIS think? Sit online and wait for a 656 to pop up or spend $510 extra for a new 856 before the price increase?
    Well, you could always go for a 656 now and grab an 856 later with likely only taking a small loss on moving the 656. Really though, as someone else stated I don't think it's about a cost benefit analysis. The extra features probably aren't worth the cost but, the 856 sure is great and I'm in the same spot. I want the extra features there just in case and just love the engineering behind the 856. I can tell myself I need these things but I don't. It's more about the design + the features. Being in a similar position of wanting an 856 but not wanting to punish myself with grilled cheese for the next year I can say that I'm likely going to pick up a used 656/556 or Damasko and then spring for the 856 when I hit a big goal.

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