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    Re: The Official EZM1 Thread

    I'd sure like to know what that serial number is (https://forums.watchuseek.com/f24/ezm...s-2603618.html)

    That's a lot of money for a non-issued piece, unless it's only been worn 3 times and kept in a moisture free environment...the it would be a steal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMSgt Bo View Post
    I'd sure like to know what that serial number is (https://forums.watchuseek.com/f24/ezm...s-2603618.html)
    I doubt it's as low as the 503.0050 mentioned in the other thread - that's the lowest I've ever seen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by consum3r View Post
    I doubt it's as low as the 503.0050 mentioned in the other thread - that's the lowest I've ever seen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CMSgt Bo View Post
    I'd sure like to know what that serial number is (https://forums.watchuseek.com/f24/ezm...s-2603618.html)

    That's a lot of money for a non-issued piece, unless it's only been worn 3 times and kept in a moisture free environment...the it would be a steal.
    Hi gang

    I too have been wondering about this item. It's in the 1800 range from what I can fathom.

    Seller also refers to "first batch" do either of you know what that could mean.

    Another observation it's a regular box.

    So to my questions.
    Are there more than one jp zuz released?

    If so what are the expected configuration?

    Any known serial ranges?

    Do all the zuz have chro certs?

    Appreciate you both busy people, so any insight would be gratefully received. Consider me a Labrador or a small child on this matter.

    Thanks
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    Re: The Official EZM1 Thread

    Based on meager samplings, below are (my) answers:

    Quote Originally Posted by TapAptPat View Post
    Seller also refers to "first batch" do either of you know what that could mean.
    No Idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by TapAptPat View Post
    Are there more than one jp zuz released?
    It "seems" so (see below).

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    If so what are the expected configuration?
    I have seen Japan ZUZ in both the "commemorative" box (long & flat with ZUZ emblazoned on top) as well as the "regular" Sinn black box. However, I have not confirmed if the regular black box configuration is original to the watch as I have not had occasion to compare the serial numbers. Mine has the "commemorative" type box which has matching serial numbers.

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    Any known serial ranges?
    The serial numbers seem to be non-consecutive and do not have any bearing on the release (order or location).

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    Do all the zuz have chro certs?
    No.

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    @consum3r

    Quick followup question. Do the regular sinn boxes have serial numbers "pairs" on them or is that just for the flat limited edition?

    Thanks for your earlier reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by TapAptPat View Post
    Do the regular sinn boxes have serial numbers "pairs" on them or is that just for the flat limited edition?
    In my (limited) experience, it's not unusual to have a serial number on the box matching the watch. I've had other Sinn boxes both with and without serial numbers on them. Of course, my sampling is inconsistent as many were acquired pre-loved. YMMV.
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    Re: The Official EZM1 Thread

    more info on the special editions in MWR Bob's article:
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    Re: The Official EZM1 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TapAptPat View Post
    Hi gang

    I too have been wondering about this item. It's in the 1800 range from what I can fathom.

    Seller also refers to "first batch" do either of you know what that could mean.

    Another observation it's a regular box.

    So to my questions.
    Are there more than one jp zuz released?

    If so what are the expected configuration?

    Any known serial ranges?

    Do all the zuz have chro certs?
    The hyperlink in my previous post will answer some of your questions, and I am by no means an expert.

    Do you mean 180 range? 1,800 is beyond the 3H range, which were discontinued in 2002. I haven't seen any ZUZ commemoratives being made beyond the 1990's.

    I don't believe you'll find a ZUZ commemorative far outside the 250 range.

    I don't know much about boxes or what a "first batch" may be.

    There was only one Japan only release and possibly a few more ZUZ dialed watches given away as gifts (I read somewhere that maybe 7 went to Recaro Execs)

    Not counting the Bape, all EZM1's have the same "configuration" with four possible dial markings at the 6:00 quarter (3H, ZUZ, ZTZ, Ar).

    See my link regarding serial ranges.

    My ZUZ is the only one I know of that has a Chronometer grade movement and caseback marking. I do know of one other Chronometer grade EZM1 (3H dial) that belongs to a fellow collector in Florida.

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    Re: The Official EZM1 Thread

    Thanks for all the help, maybe next time I'll go hunting proper.

    As I had so many questions, it's better to be a little more prepared, than make a mistake by not knowing.

    The 1800 was from Google machine language translation. So I'd say it is possible it could be wrong. Seeing your reply on 1800 makes sense to me. On the other hand if there were more than one batch that went to market in Japan then 1800 is in play again.

    To explain my limited understanding
    Issued zuz gsg9 etc batch. The leftovers were then "leaked" to Japan.
    2nd batch with flat box limited edition released Japan. I think the upper known is 503.0350ish.

    Have I got the "configuration" right
    Small bezel triangle
    3h lume on dial
    Tritium hands
    No gug case
    High dome crystal
    Ar coating on inside only
    With marker at 6:00

    In essence a 3h confirmation.

    My comments are just unformed learning during a short interval last weekend so please put me right if anyone has seen suspects or knows my comments to be wrong.

    Thanks again for all the help links and such.
    Especially @consum3r @David woo and @cmSgt bo


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    Quote Originally Posted by TapAptPat View Post
    The 1800 was from Google machine language translation. So I'd say it is possible it could be wrong.
    Actually, I just looked at the auction listing and it definitely implies that the serial number is in the 1800 range.
    Unfortunately, there isn't a shot of the case back to confirm this statement.

    A simplified translation (using my noggin - not google) would be:

    ジン Sinn 503 EZM-1正規品
    Jin Sinn 503 EZM-1 seiki hin
    "Jin" = Japanese pronunciation of "zin" (because it's not pronounced "sin")
    "seiki hin" = regular item/product
    so ... Sinn 503 EZM-1 normal product (probably implying that it is a commercial product and not an issued piece)

    ZUZ文字盤(1stモデル)
    ZUZ Moji Ban (1st moderu)
    "Moji Ban" = character/lettering version
    "moderu" = Japanese pronunciation of "model" (because Japanese borrow foreign words)
    so ... ZUZ dialed version. I think "1st Model" in this context is simply a reference to the ZUZ dialed as being the first version of the EZM1 produced/released.

    シリアルナンバー1800番台
    siriaru nanba 1800 ban dai
    "siriaru nanba" = Japanese pronunciation of "serial number" (because Japan)
    "1800" = 1800 (duh)
    "ban dai" = number series/range (not to be confused with BANDAI the toy maker)
    so ... Serial number in 1800 series

    ($0.02)
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