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    1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    I have been considering a Doxa for some time but am (still) torn between the 1200T and 1500T.

    I'm leaning toward the 1200T Professional given my relatively small 6.75" wrist. I'm comfortable wearing dress watches in the 38-40mm range, as well as a variety of slightly larger dive watches (e.g., Rolex 16610 Submariner, 16600 Sea Dweller). The even larger Dagaz Tsunami and Seiko Orange Monster are about as large as I can handle.

    As much as I like the 1200T, the 1500T is appealing given its updated bracelet and Soprod movement. The current price of the 1500T is $1,990 vs. $1,890 for the 1200T.

    If anyone has experience with either or both watches, and wrist or comparison shots, that would be helpful. Please forgive the fact that this question is probably old and tired for serious Doxaholics

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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    Like you, I question the size of the 1500 on a smallish wrist. my own experience with larger watches ( my planet oceanXl for example) is that I often end up questioning whether they look ok or not! and regret them to some extent.

    If in doubt, get the 1200, the big watch trend is fading.
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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    John, I have a 7 1/2 wrist and enjoy my Doxa 1200T Professional. I have tried the 750T and found it too big and heavy for me. I think the 1500T would feel too large on my wrist as well.

    I have decided that a 44mm case is the largest I can comfortably wear. Anything larger tends to feel too big and heavy very quickly on my wrist.

    I also agree with Viciudoli when he says the big watch trend is fading. I think we will start to see more watches being offered in the 40-42mm case size range.

    You can't go wrong with the 1200T, IMHO. Cheers, Bill P.


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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    John, I have the same size wrist as you. Maybe some of these pictures may be helpful. First, here's my 1200 on my 6.75" wrist:


    Here's my 750 (I know you're talking about a 1500, but this might be useful for reference):


    And lastly, here's my 1200 next to my Orange Monster:


    Hope these are helpful! Oh, and my vote? 1200 all the way!
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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    Hi John,

    I'll add my 2c worth as a newcomer to the world of Doxa. New, meaning in acquisition, but not to the brand. I can see, being the last day for the upcoming 1500T Soprod pre-order, you need some insight fast

    I have a just shy of 7" wrist that is fairly flat topped ( a plus for me when it comes to width). A few months ago I picked up a pre-owned 1200T Searambler and absolutely love the watch!. In this case I wanted a sporty silver dialed watch to replace a silver Longines Hydroconqest (that I also loved) but was ready for a change.

    You are getting some good honest comments, as some folks, myself included, are coming to the realization of their true tolerances for appropriate, comfortable size suitable for daily wear, with a sensible presence and fit.

    From your description of what you are seeking I think the 1200T would be very appreciated, and go the distance for wrist time. ( I wore my 1200T for 60 days straight when I first got it, and find myself returning to it time & time again)

    I'm actually wanting an Orange dial Doxa now, and I'm beating myself up over which model has the slights size increase over the 1200T. Only because I don't necessarily wish to duplicate the same watch. Though I've done it before

    I've had several Dagaz Tsunami's, and numerous Seiko Monsters. I can easily handle the fit / size though the Tsunami seemed a little top heavy, and I find the Seiko 6309-7040 much more comfortable with a lower center of gravity and shallower case back. The Monster was fine, but got tired of them. More of a straight up and down case.

    The 1200T has a nice center of gravity and the case to bezel has a great step up. The sloping case surface to the bezel is a nice gradient. Keep in mind too the case of the Doxa is flatter with little curvature. The bigger you go in size the more of what I call "the slab effect" comes into play which for my is quite disconcerting. Another reason I think you'd get enjoyment and longevity from the 1200T. I do think it's the best starting point for your wrist size. It's classic and of course has the famous beads of rice bracelet. The weight of the 1200T is apparent but in a good way and very wearable for long periods. I think any bigger and the weight may be a deterrent to daily wear. I do like to throw on a weighty watch from time to time, but it seems you want this as not just an occasional watch.

    I have considered the new Mission 31 which is titanium (same as 800ti), but the price is prohibitive for me, and not sure if I'd get use to the specific dial branding, vs the clean open dial of Doxa's other offerings. Though I too rather like the new bracelet, and love adjustable on-the-fly clasps.

    Like you, I can't say I'm a Doxaholic per say, but the 1200T is a very impressive watch. Just wish I was rich as I would try the new M31. I don't see "The Doxaholics" jumping on this one as they already have the best of the best

    I will be getting another Doxa watch and most likely another 1200T in Orange. I've been obsessing over it for the past 3 weeks.

    Good luck with your decision and a very Happy New Year to you! Post pics and opinion whatever you get it please

    RD

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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    I have the same size wrist as you, and I find that my 1200T is a perfect fit.
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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    Great feedback from all of you -- thanks so much for the input and pictures!

    The clear sense is that I can't go wrong with a 1200T, especially as a first Doxa. It's not a small watch overall and wears comfortably, from what you're saying. It will likely be an orange Professional but I have to see say Riddim that your Searambler looks beautiful.

    I own a few very nice ETA-based watches that are closer to $1,000 than $2,000 (e.g., Stowa Flieger COSC, Damasko DA-36) so the $1,890 price of entry for the 1200T seems a bit high. But I've heard nothing but good things about Doxa's quality, fit and finish, and customer service, so it's very likely I'll go forward in early 2014. If this thread is any indication, a Doxa is not only a good watch but one that appeals to a well-informed, discerning group of people.

    Cheers and thanks again. I'll close with Novim Godam, which means Happy New Year in Russian. I don't speak Russian but I just learned the phrase this afternoon from a nice Russian couple at the DMV in northern California. I was waiting for my son to take his driving test and passed the time learning about life in Moscow!

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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    John,

    I have the same size wrist and I've found the lug to lug measurement is much more important than the case width. The 1500T lug-to-lug is only 47mm which is quite short. Also, the dial opening is only a bit over 30mm making the watch wear smaller than it's case size would suggest. I'd go larger as a personal preference but seeing as your above collection is in the 39-40mm range makes me think the 1200 is probably fine for you.
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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    IWC Mark XVI (since changed the strap back to black)

    now that is just about perfect.

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    Re: 1200T vs. 1500T on 6.75" wrist

    Quote Originally Posted by GoBuffs11 View Post
    John,

    I have the same size wrist and I've found the lug to lug measurement is much more important than the case width. The 1500T lug-to-lug is only 47mm which is quite short. Also, the dial opening is only a bit over 30mm making the watch wear smaller than it's case size would suggest. I'd go larger as a personal preference but seeing as your above collection is in the 39-40mm range makes me think the 1200 is probably fine for you.
    Agree with Gobuffs.
    I had bought a 1500T for my 7 inch wrist and found the dial way to small and sold it. Bought a Doxa 750 Searambler & a Doxa 4000 which have larger dials and easier to read. They work great for me as I like to see a nice size easy to read dial. My preference is a bigger but thats just me. Everyone I talked to said you cant go wrong with a Doxa 750 Searambler. Here is a shot of my grail. Doesn't matter what the trend is as long as you are happy.

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