Well here is what is going on. I wind the watch and when It gets to be fully wound it starts this helicoptering. The watch runs ok the power reserve and timing are good. I went to a watchmaker and he said this is common and it needs a lube and maybe parts. DOXA would need to take a look. I sent word to Doxa and of course they would need to see it before they could say. Has anybody had this happen to them? What did you do? Thanks!