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    My first!

    Today I received my first Doxa, the 1000T Sharky

    First impression is great. Only one thing that cought my attention was the turning of the bezel. Comparing to my other dive watches, the bezel of this Doxa does not turn very smooth. My €100 Seiko turns 10 times better as this €2000 Doxa. But maybe there is a reason for this. If not, Doxa should improve this right away. Then it is strange that a brand as Doxa which is known worldwide as a specialist in divewatches produces watches with such bad turning bezels. I am not a diver, so I do not care much about it because I may turn it only twice a year. If I do need to use the bezel more often I would not use this watch very much.

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    Re: My first!

    Well, maybe it's simply what you're used to. Bottom line, for me the Doxa SUB bezel has one of the best turning feels of any dive bezel I've handled. While I like the feel of my Breitling Chrono Avenger bezel only slightly better, it is also much more prone to accidental turning if bumped.

    The Doxa bezel is near perfect for a true diver IMHO (with the exception that I wish it were user removable for cleaning, however that could also lead to it being losable, NOT something any of us would like), while my two Seiko divers have a very chintzy feeling bezel to my touch. Perhaps it's a case of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"?
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    Re: My first!

    What T Bone is referring to is the very "ratchety" action of the Doxa bezel. While the Seiko bezel may seem to turn more smoothly, the Doxa bezel is suited for actual diving a bit better. A very ratchety bezel with very little play is quite useful for diving. Also, the grippability of the bezel is quite nice for diving. A diver can actually grip the Doxa bezel while wearing heavy gloves. I have dove with several different brands, and none are as functional as the Doxa.

    The action of the Doxa bezel is quite similar to the vintage Doxa Sub. The main differences are that the Vintage bezel was only 60-click (the 1000T is 120-click), and the newer bezel has less play.

    While the ratchety feel of the Doxa dive bezel is not for everyone, remember that these watches are designed to the highest standards to be useful as a tool for diving. They are second to none in this regard.

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    Thumbs Up Re: My first!

    Congrats on the DOXA!

    I have to concur with the above statements. I've owned (and own) many dive watches, including Breitling, Rolex, DOXA, Benarus, Citizen, etc. and find the DOXA bezel to be among the best of the best. Accurate (no slop), easy to use even underwater, smooth yet noticeable ratcheting action.

    In all, exactly what I want from a real dive watch.

    If the issue isn't the ratcheting action, what is the issue? Did some debris get stuck in yours? Just curious.

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    Re: My first!

    hands down... my 750 GMT sharkie is the best practical dive watch i own.... plus 3 timezones means its on my wrist alot. I have lost many of the coloured letters on the bezel and may soon need to return it to the its swiss nest for a re-feathering. It shows its 300 + dives, but it is the best for travel and under water. built like a tank and stills keeps + - 6 seconds a day near as i can tell.

    I have Sinn,glycine and Seiko watches, but the one that keeps on trucking is the doxa.

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    Re: My first!

    First of all, thanks for your replies. I am glad there is nothing wrong with my bezel. This is just the way it should be. I indeed believe the issue is the ratcheting action (allthough I do not know exactly what this means in Dutch). I certainly think this bezel is perfect for diving, but there are more on the market. Isn't it possible to make a bezel with the same perfect specs without this "cheap" feeling? I can't hardly believe. Because that is the way it feels for me.

    But don't get me wrong, I love this watch and I am very glad with it.

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    Ron.

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    Re: My first!

    I used to have an old Swatch Scuba that had a very good feel when turning the bezel. And I have played with two Seiko Monsters that seemed to have a very loose and imprecise feel. To be fair to Seiko, I do have a Tuna and would rate its bezel as perfect - in the same league as my Doxa SUB 1000T.

    I'm not sure about using the adjective "cheap" or for that matter "expensive" to the turning action of a bezel. They all feel and click different.

    Maybe bezels are like beer - we all have different taste.

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    Re: My first!

    From dictionary.com
    ratch⋅et

     /ˈrætʃɪt/ Show Spelled [rach-it] Show IPA
    Use ratchet in a Sentence

    –noun 1.a toothed bar with which a pawl engages.
    2.(not in technical use) a pawl or the like used with a ratchet or ratchet wheel.
    3.a mechanism consisting of such a bar or wheel with the pawl.
    4. ratchet wheel.
    5.a steady progression up or down: the upward ratchet of oil prices.

    –verb (used with object), verb (used without object) 6.to move by degrees (often fol. by up or down): to ratchet prices up; Interest rates have been ratcheting downward.


    Origin:
    1650–60; alter. of F rochet; MF rocquet a blunt lance-head < Gmc


    In the case of your bezel it is the turning in only one direction, with the "clicking" you hear/feel that locks/prevents it from turning in the other direction.

    Now, as to the "cheap" feeling, frankly, I find the term offensive. I would prefer that you be specific about what feels wrong (is it too tight, too loose, does it wobble, stick, not click precisely, etc. etc.). Then we could have something to compare with our own, and frankly could help us to know if there were in deed something amiss with yours. To simply say it feels "cheap" is so subjective as to be unanswerable, yet casts it in a negative light to those who have not had the opportunity to try one for themselves.
    Regards, T Bone.

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    Re: My first!

    Dear Dutchdiver,

    Strange name for a non-diver, but anyway we do appreciate your comments. I won't argue that the bezel of "cheaper" watches may feel smooth or in some cases, in the eye or feel of a novice, "better." But with a Doxa the bezel has a "posivtive" feel to me and is undeniably much better. It has much less room for error, which is what we look for in a great diver. I hope you stick with the Doxa brand and you too will experience much satisfaction like we do. Enjoy!!

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    Re: My first!

    Ron,

    I'm not a diver either but I swim a half a mile daily, so my watches are in the water a lot. I use my bezels all the time though. Anytime there is an event I want to time. Whether it's cooking a steak on the barbie, Boiling shrimp, timing exercise, or timing how long it's been since I shocked the pool on a hot day. I've been wearing Doxas for over six years now and the bezels feel the same as the day I bought them . My Seikos tend to get gunked up over a period of time and I have to soak then in soapy water for hours to get them turning freely. I have never had this problem with my Doxas or Breitling. BTW probably the only people that use their bezels more than I do are the Compulsive Bezel Twirlers. So while they may feel different to you, they are definitely NOT cheap and can handle anything you can throw at them.

    Joe
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