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    Seatime Black Forest LE

    Am I correct that this is the only Seatime/Prodiver with a TOP-grade (and, hence, decorated) movement?

    Also, if anyone owns one, any new photos here would be appreciated (especially of the movement).

    Finally, what's your opinion on the sand-blasted, matte finish (as opposed to brushed)?

    Thanks!
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    Re: Seatime Black Forest LE

    A lot of movement pics in this thread

    Stowa Seatime Black Forest Edition 1

    For movements and decoration please read the Stowa FAQ. All outlined already.
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    Re: Seatime Black Forest LE

    The FAQ mentions the 2824, not the 2836. Also, in their descriptions, both the Seatime and Seatime BF show the same photo for the movement and same description (2836-2). I'm just trying to confirm that the BF is the TOP version and the regular Seatime is not. And as long as we're on the topic, I don't see where it says if the Prodivers use TOP movements or not.

    I saw the thread on the BF but there is only one post with user photos so if anyone owns one, I'd love to see more and hear you're opinion on the watch.
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    Re: Seatime Black Forest LE

    Stowa never ever mention it is the top grade, Stowa advertised the Seatime BF to have a top finish, in German and in English.

    „Die Seatime Black Forest Edition 1 ist ab sofort in einer limitierten Auflage von 200 Stück erhältlich. Die Limitierung zeigt sich in der Verwendung des grünen Minuten- und Sekundenzeigers sowie am Uhrwerk, ein ETA 2836 im Topfinish, das uns z.Z. nur in begrenzter Anzahl zur Verfügung steht.“

    However it got the Incabloc shock protection.

    Technical specs when launching the LE were described as follows:

    The case of this new watch for example was milled of the light metal TITANIUM.
    The dial typography became rounder.
    A green minute- and second hand filled with luminous material complete the harmonious construction. A new and innovative rotating bezel , the so called DYNADOTS bezel ("dynamic dots"), is used for the first time for this model.

    DYNADOTS: the increasing size of the inserted Superluminova light points shows easy and intuitively a period of 15 minutes. The DYNADOTS concept was developed by the world famous designerHartmut Esslinger and consequently transformed by Jörg Schauer for the model Seatime. It shows the passing time not only in its position but also in its quantity!

    An absolute novelty in the design of wrist watches (the design protection is already requested)

    Hartmut Esslinger, founder of frogdesign, belongs worldwide to the most influential designers of the last decades. He designed successfully for Wega, Sony, Apple, Lufthansa, Louis Vuitton, Yamaha and many more.
    Also, he is among others responsible for the new design of the new STOWA Bauhaus edition "Antea - back to bauhaus".

    The Seatime Black Forest Edition 1 is now available in a limited edition of 200 pieces. The limitation is characterized by the use of the green minute- and second hand as well as by the movement, an ETA 2836 top finish, which presently is only available in a limited number.
    Dimensions
    Diameter: 42.00 mm
    Height: 13.50 mm
    Strap width: 22 mm
    Lug-to-Lug size: 50.30 mm
    Waterproof: up to 20 ATM
    Weight: about 100 gr. (leather strap)

    Materiality
    Case: Titanium, case middle part fine matt (sandblasted) , case back fine matt grinded by hand, bezel with alu inlay
    Dial: black matt, white printed, Superluminova C3
    Crystals: Flat front sapphire crystal and sapphire display case back - inside A/R coating
    Hands: hour black, minute and second limette colored, Superluminova C3
    Starb: Leather strap or rubber strap
    Crown: titanium screw ed crown with STOWA logo

    Movement
    Caliber: ETA 2836-2
    Mechanism: automatic
    Half vibrations per hour: 28,000 A/H
    Function: hour, minutes and central second complication, day-date function
    Power Reserve: approximately 40 hours
    Number of jewels: 25 synthetic rubies
    Finish: Rhodium coated, blued screws, golden STOWA engraving

    Specific features
    limited 200 pcs, bezel dynadots, up to 30 ATM, screwed sapphire display case back, screwed crown, date, hands and numerals on dial Superluminova C3
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    Re: Seatime Black Forest LE

    Quote Originally Posted by stuffler,mike View Post
    Stowa never ever mention it is the top grade, Stowa advertised the Seatime BF to have a top finish, in German and in English.

    The Seatime Black Forest Edition 1 is now available in a limited edition of 200 pieces. The limitation is characterized by the use of the green minute- and second hand as well as by the movement, an ETA 2836 top finish, which presently is only available in a limited number.
    I'm glad you mentioned that because if that's the case, it is extremely misleading. I'm sure it was unintentional, but to say a movement has a "top finish" (when no such term is commonly used AFAIK) is a poor choice of words if it is not a TOP version. At least one review I read also misread it and referred to it as a TOP grade movement.

    Stowa also continues to show a photo of this "top finish" movement for its standard Seatime and still lists both at 30 ATM water resistance. I understand that translation can cause issues but it's becoming tiresome to have to investigate every watch detail because you're never sure if it's a misprint or not. These are not $30 watches that are being sold. Stowa's watches and customer service are excellent, but they need to fix these website and info issues.

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    Re: Seatime Black Forest LE

    "Top finish" isn't used often, that's correct. However, you will dind it here and there. A Russian web site uses finest top finish. VAljoux 7750 are often offered in top finish as well. In my understanding top finish includes blue screws, perlage, geneva stripes, incabloc shock.
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