Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

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    Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    Hi I am on order for a AO and was wondering if Stowa has ever mentioned the possibility of a B-Dial also? I would love to have both.

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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    Hear hear!

    Stowa's A-dialed watch is a true beauty. I'm sure they would make an astounding B-dial if ever Jörg and his team wanted to.

    Jörg, just say when and we'll run like a herd to the bank-account.

    Consider this a pre-order, I'm not kidding.

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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    I would also love to see a B-dial
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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    Hi to all...

    Can somebody explain to me what is A-dial and B-dial??? Pardon my ignorance...

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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    Quote Originally Posted by cedric View Post
    Hi to all...

    Can somebody explain to me what is A-dial and B-dial??? Pardon my ignorance...
    Beobachtungsuhr (B-Uhr) has two type of dials: Type A and Type B

    Type A (Baumuster A) has simple dial and numeral 1-11 +two dots&triangle at 12




    Type B (Baumuster B): has small inner circle


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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    Quote Originally Posted by cedric View Post
    Hi to all...

    Can somebody explain to me what is A-dial and B-dial??? Pardon my ignorance...
    Well, you should have used our cross-forum-search-function to get more information on A- and B-dials. Basicly "A" and "B" goes back to the requirements of the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) for German pilot' s watches.

    Lange & Söhne Baumuster A


    Stowa Baumuster B



    Historical excurs:

    B-watches of WW II have been made for the German Luftwaffe by only 5 manufacturers

    A. Lange & Söhne
    Laco (Lacher & Co)
    Stowa (Walter Storz)
    Wempe (Chronometerwerke Hamburg)
    IWC

    and contained high quality pocket watch movements:

    Lange & Söhne: cal. 48/1
    (due to limited capacities watches have been assembled by Huber/Munich, Felsing/Berlin, Schieron/Stuttgart, Schätzle & Tschudin/Pforzheim, Wempe/Hamburg).
    Laco: Durowe cal. D 5
    Stowa: Unitas cal. 2812
    Wempe: Thommen cal. 31
    IWC: cal. 52 SC

    Due to the specifications of the RLM all B-watches had the following features in common:

    - A case diameter of 55 mm
    - Marked on the back with FL 23883 (FL = flight, 23 = navigation)
    - Equipped with large crowns in order to be used with gloves
    - Hacking movement (the second hand stops when pulling out the crown / essential for a precise time setting)
    - Breguet balance spring
    - Regulated and tested as chronometers
    - Long leather strap (to be worn on the sleeve of a flight jacket).

    There have been two different types of dials:

    Type A (Baumuster A) from 1940 to January 1941
    a classic dial with numerals 1 to 11 and the triangle with two dots at 12

    Type B (Baumuster B) starting in January 1941
    Big minute numerals from 5 to 55 and a small inner circle with numerals for h, at the position of 60 min a triangle and a line on its top.


    There have been a lot of other military and pilot´s watches with other case diameter (even 36mm for a military watch is to be found). For example: pocket watches for the Kriegsmarine:

    Swiss pocket watches (Navigation watches) for the Kriegsmarine (KM) of WW II have been produced by IWC, Vacheron & Constantin, Cortébert, Ulysse Nardin, Solvil (Paul Ditisheim) and Paul Buhré.There have been to classes of navigation watches, class 1 and class 2. Class 1 watches have been made by Lange & Söhne and Vacheron & Constantin, Ulysse Nardin, class 2 watches by Laco, Stowa, IWC und Cortébert. Class 1/class 2 refers to the test results defined by the German Navy. The classification was determined by results of the ‘Kleine Prüfung’ (small examination). This test has been precisely defined by the war ministery of the German Reich.
    These tests, like the ‘Große Prüfung’ (major examination) were conducted at the Naval Observatory in Hamburg or in its affiliate in Gesundbrunnen.

    Data sheet of the RLM

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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    my apologies... and thanks alot to all for the information

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    Yeah, Thanks Hary and especially Mike for history class; I can really appreciate it.
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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    I think it would be pretty cool but there are a number of other historical projects I'd love to see first.

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    Re: Stowa Airman- any plans ever for a B-Dial?

    Like what and how it pertains to Stowas own particular history? The MO is pretty darn spot on and a must have in its own rite. I would also love to see a MO set to observatory standards with option for parallax corrected batton hands. I feel that stowa would be perfect to do a hommage to their own classic MO and the classic Observatoire such as this one, Filipe Jordaos Voutilainen http://forums.timezone.com/index.php...4231&rid=24122

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