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    Stowa vintage pocket watch

    Ron asked me some details about a Stowa vintage pocket watch.
    Discussion seems to fit better here in Stowa than in the vintage
    forum.

    The style of this pocket watch is similar to the current model Stowa
    "1938" chronograph with silver dial.


    The dial looks white or matte silver. The minute marks look black.
    The hands are gold colored. The hour numbers and the "Stowa"
    logo are gold colored and appear to be applied. How the numbers
    were applied and aligned consistently I don't know. Here you can
    imagine you see sharp corners and flat sides on the numbers.


    I think given the age of the watch the hands, numbers, and logo
    are gold plated. There are gold colored coatings that aren't gold,
    for example PVD TaN coating. However, I am pretty sure this
    watch predates the commercialization of those deposition
    processes.

    I don't read German, and may have misinterpreted some details
    of building the Stowa "1938" chronograph. I understand the "1938"
    dial is silver plated bronze with numbers embossed on a very sharp
    die to create crisp edges. A benefit is the hour numbers always
    have the same alignment and customers never complain about a
    gap between the applique and the dial.

    Of course the Stowa vintage pocket watch is not the same as the
    new Stowa chronograph, but it is nice to trace the heritage.

    Thanks,
    rationaltime
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    Rolling eyes Re: Stowa vintage pocket watch

    Rationaltime, thanks for posting these photos. Yes, that appears to be the same model I have. The dial, hands etc look very familiar. I'll be able to confirm and post a photo or two after I pick it up from the watchmaker in a couple of days. The one I have is gold plated (I think 10 microns, 20 jarhe guarantee from what I recall) and has a gift inscription dated 1952, so I assume the watch dates to '51 or '52.

    I'm hoping the blue paint comes off the hands nicely. I'm confident that it will, as they were in good shape prior to the 'touch up'. (background info: I dropped off the watch for cleaning and tuning a few weeks ago along with two others, and the watchmaker provided a free service of touch-up bluing paint of some sort on the hands... including the gold hands of this Stowa. Last weekend it went back to see what he could do about removing the coloring.)

    It would be very interesting to find out if the manufacturing methods used for the dial and hands of this pocket watch have similarities with what Jorg Schauer has chosen for the Stowa 1938 chrono, with it's solid bronze dial and silver plating (which happens to be on my wish list). Either way I like the similarity of the two.

    Ron

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    Re: Stowa vintage pocket watch

    Hi rationaltime,
    hi Ron,

    really nice watches.
    I believe Joerg referred to the "old manner of embossing", like having been done with that pocket watch, when he described how the "1938 Chrono" has to be processed.

    Ron,
    if there are any issues in getting that "blue" off the watches hands, be careful in replacing gold plating to the hands.
    I own some of these pocket watches and one had to be serviced and the gold plating be restored. First and second trial ended with a spotty black and golden surface. Finally third attempt was successful: In former times hands were prepared for plating in another way then today. Don't ask me how - I don't know. I am only happy, now that the hands are looking like being new:



    Here are more of them:

    STOWA vintage pocket watches

    Your pocket watch was also made in a variant with blued steel hands, not only gold plated.


    Volker

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    Re: Stowa vintage pocket watch

    Hi Voker, thanks for your post. That is nice collection of watches you have in the photos. The one in photo #22 looks to be the exact model that I have.

    The inscribed date is interesting: 1943. Mine is inscribed 1952, which to me implies this model may have been in production for 10 years. That's a good run.

    Tomorrow is the big day... I'll pick up the watch and find out if the blueing came off. I am optimistic though. Gold plating is probably tough enough to stand up to some amount of abuse.

    Ron

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    Re: Stowa vintage pocket watch

    Quote Originally Posted by brainless View Post
    Hi rationaltime,
    hi Ron,

    really nice watches.
    I believe Joerg referred to the "old manner of embossing", like having been done with that pocket watch, when he described how the "1938 Chrono" has to be processed.

    ...

    Volker
    I guess the hour numbers could have been embossed. They are not very thick.
    There is enough material in the dial to stretch the metal that far. The numbers
    have sharp edges and vertical sides. Someone did good work on the dial. If this
    is old tech I wonder why we don't see much of this any more. Perhaps the die
    doesn't stand up to enough cycles. I suppose Jörg did some study on this.

    Thanks,
    rationaltime

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