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    Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    I don't have time to make a giant review post so I thought I'd make a thread for all us Stars & Stripes ETA 2801 owners to post our pics. I wanna see the movement on different watches and see how it fits. For my watch, I'll just post a few comments and three questions:


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    - I like real rivets on a flieger strap. This has real rivets. I'm happy. It's function isn't needed to keep the strap together like the old straps, but I can't complain too much about a strap worth less than $20. I like it.
    - I love the metal box AND the cardboard yellow/white Stowa box. I'll use both to store watch tools and accessories.
    - Is this watch awesome or what? The history of the flieger is great (the history of it's design and purpose, not the WW2 history so please let's not start that). It has such a tough look and it's now the most subtle of all my watches. Yes, a FLIEGER is the most subtle of my collection. It's subtle compared to my Orange Monster and ProTrek. I really don't like to attract attention with my watches.
    - It was hard to get realistic lighting on these photos. I need a real camera (or just a 2016 phone). And no, my phone cannot zoom anywhere close to 10x. I used a clip-on camera phone 10x lens.
    - I blocked all mentions of a watch number. I hear it's a security thing. I don't fully understand the reason behind it but I did it just in case.

    Questions
    1. I read that the metal keeper on flieger straps (like this one) are there in case the leather keeper fails. Is that true? I feel like there's another reason for the metal keeper.
    2. Another strap question: Can someone explain the purpose of the small, square metal piece attached to the movable black leather keeper on the back?
    3. This is my first manual-wound watch so I'm sorry if this sounds like a dumb question. I didn't think I had to learn anything new about manual movements, but something surprised me just now. You'll notice the watch is stopped on all of my pictures. I expect that because I haven't even touched the crown. However, as I flip the watch over to look at the movement, I see the balance moving. I look at the dial, and now the watch movement is in full motion. It ran for a few minutes before stopping. Is there a secret rotor on the 2801 movement I'm not aware of? How did this watch start without a crown turn?


    Post your pictures, reviews, and comments everyone!

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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    Edit: I forgot to add the weight and dimensions. These are not from the store, but my own measurements.

    width: 40mm; 43.9 with crown (rounded to nearest tenth)
    height: 9.2mm
    weight: 66 grams

    Also, the watch came with a copy of the Stowa watch book. Anyone want it? I already got mine at the Wind Up event.
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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    Hi BBGrim - welcome to Stowa land, you've gotten yourself a stunning watch, wear it in good health! It looks badass on you.
    I have a few hand-winders, including a Hamilton Khaki Mechanical with an ETA 2804-2 movement (it's the date version of the 2801-2 in your watch).
    I find that the handwinders can have a bit of power left in the mainspring even after they have stopped running - if you move them it may be enough to get the spring to unwind a bit more and set the balance wheel in motion for a few minutes. But the balance wheel isn't rotating as fast or as much as in normal operation, it's feeble. I think that might be what is happening here.
    My 2804-2, a standard grade, is accurate to about +2-4 seconds a day (I regulated it a once and got lucky), hope you get something similar. 5 years old now so soon to go in for a service.
    Stowas are great.
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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    Congrats for the new watch. You got yourself a really nice piece and quite unique as not so many are buying the flieger type B dial.

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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

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    In WWII times the rivets were an integral part of the original closed loop leather straps dictated by the need of them. There hasn't been much experience with glued strap's ends or whipstiched straps (particular at the end). This and the special buckle indeed "kept the straps of observer watches together".

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    in the above draft you can see that rivets were part of the requirements of the RLM <Reichsluftfahrtministerium> as well as the closed loop strap as such. The rivets were used to secure the folded lug ends of the strap. Using the closed loop strap was also to prevent the observer from loosing its (expensive) time piece. The strap parts had to be 80mm (buckle part) and 210mm.

    Today they are just a noce to have historical reminiscence.
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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    Great looking movement. Enjoy your new toy.
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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    Movement looks good, I just can't justify anything to the collection right now.

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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBadGRIM
    Also, the watch came with a copy of the Stowa watch book. Anyone want it? I already got mine at the Wind Up event.
    Great looking watch and thanks for sharing the pics of the movement. Stars & stripes look really good.

    If there are no takers yet, then I would like the book. Thank you for offering it here.

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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    this just arrived early this week, christmas present for the wife




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    Re: Who's Got the Stars & Stripes Movement? Here's Mine...

    Quote Originally Posted by govdubspeedgo View Post
    this just arrived early this week, christmas present for the wife




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