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    30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    Hi all! I'm at the point where I want to start thinking about my 30th birthday watch. With kids likely coming soon after, this will likely be my last significant purchase for a long while, so I want to make sure I think it through and make sure it'll be a keeper.

    I've owned over 80 watches over the last 5 years and have not spent over $20k on a single watch. I've owned every single watch under $20k that I like, with the exception of a steel Daytona. For my 30th birthday watch, I'm giving myself a budget of ~$35k. I have no problem spending less than that, but would prefer not to go over. Based on things I've tried on over the years, I've narrowed down my thinking to three main ideas: a gold Rolex, a Lange 1, or a simple time only watch from an independent watchmaker. I know they are very different options, and I would own all three in a heartbeat if I had unlimited money, but that is obviously not the case.

    I currently have 15 watches. I'll share some pics to give an idea of what I have and plan to keep. 9 of them are on the cheap side, and are mostly gifts and pieces I've inherited, so I will never get rid of them:

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    I also have 3 more that are keepers that I love. My Lange 1815 U/D in white gold, Explorer 1, and Milgauss Z-Blue. The commemorated life events for me.

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    I have three more that are expendable. I do love them, but they don't mean much to me and I have no problem selling them. Rolex DJ36, Grand Seiko Snowflake, and Pelagos Blue.

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    So, here is my thinking for the next watch:

    • Gold Rolex - Something about the feeling of wearing gold and the weight is just special. I've been considering both a gold Daytona and a DD40 either in white or rose gold. I won't get too specific on dials because there are a bunch that I like and more may be introduced at Basel this coming year.
    • Lange 1 - I've always loved the Lange 1. Because I already have the 1815 U/D in white gold, I'd be looking to go rose gold with this. I'm considering both the base Lange 1 and the Lange 1 Moonphase. I'd really love a Zeitwerk or Platinum Dato, but they are way above what I want to spend at this time.
    • Indy - This is where things get a little complicated. I love so many independents, but most of the ones I love are way above my spending comfort level (i.e. Gronefeld Remontoire, MB&F LM101, DeBethune DB25, RG Logical One, Voutilainen, Journe Centigraphe). The ones in my price range that I'd consider are the Gronefeld 1941 Principia, Journe Chronometre Souverain Havana, and Laurent Ferrier Galet Micro-Rotor.


    Here are some pics of the things I'm considering. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions outside of what I mentioned?

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    Re: 30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    Get the one you will get the most use out of IMO.

    The Lange is special as is the LF and FPJ.

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    Re: 30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    If Laurent Ferrier is part of the conversation....
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    Re: 30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    I’m going to say, hang on to the Grand Seiko, but let the Rolex and Tudor see pastures new.
    As much as I like most FP Journes, the Laurent Ferrier Galet movement does more for me, even if the colour is ubiquitous by comparison.
    Gronefeld have long since held a special fondness, right from the very start, but the Principia’s rotor really should have been skeletonised, or used sapphire, like Lehmann, if a micro-rotor was never on the cards from the outset.
    Such a glaring oversight, in my view, as it does a lovely movement like theirs, no favours at all.
    Also worth keeping Urban Jurgensen in mind, especially pre-owned, like LF and De Bethune, which is where you get the best value.

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    Re: 30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    You've experienced all the ubiquitous pieces, go for an Independent. For $35,000, you can pick up some unbelievable watchmaking, just as I did for only $3,500. Best of luck in your decision
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    I would definitely go either Lange or an independent. Going to catch .... for this but IMO Rolex is incredibly boring and a solid gold one is pretty tacky.

    Personally I am selling my Lange 1 and going FPJ because I got a little bored of it and want something a little wacky.
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    Re: 30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    I’d personally go for an ALS of FPJ. If going for gold Rolex, my vote would be for the new white gold yacht master
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    I would suggest you to glacé at Patek Philippe watches as well. For around $40k you’ve many good options for complication watches. I somehow find an air of royalty in their watches. You get an assurance of life time service for the watch.

    Many independent watchmakers can’t ensure lifetime service. We don’t know what system of services would evolve after they left this terra firma. Most of them are one man show and market forces in luxury segment are very ruthless indeed.
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    Re: 30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by R_rated View Post
    Get the one you will get the most use out of IMO.

    The Lange is special as is the LF and FPJ.
    Most wear would definitely be a white metal on bracelet.
    Current: 405.035 | 234.026 | 1016 | 16700 | 116400GV | 214270 | Longines Mystery | AT4008-51E | SKX009 | Sistem Frog | Swatch Mickey | Steelers | GWM5610

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    15400 | 15450 | 126711CHNR | 126660 | Geophysic 1958 | 116610LV | 116710BLNR | 116610LN | MUT Moon Black | 16710 Pepsi | 126234 | 397846J | 114060 (x2) | JLC MC Date | PAM911 | PAM560 | 214270 (x2) | Speedy Tuesday | SBGJ227 | SBGH269 | SBGH267 | SBGA413 | Santos | PAM914 | SBGA125 | SBGA211 (x3) | Speedy Pro (x2) | SBGA375 | SMP300 Wave | 25600TB | SBGW231 | BB GMT (x2) | BB58 | SBGN005 | SBGV247 | SBGX091 | SBGX093 | 79220R | Aquis | SLA019 | SLA023 | Tangente 38 | Oris 65 | Memovox | 6694 | Helbros Chrono | SPB075 | SPB083 | SBDC051 (x2) | Seaforth III | SBP089 | Atmos 528-8 | Hamilton Navy Pioneer | 7619-7010 | Visodate | Khaki 38mm | 6139-7020 | 6138-0017 | SRPB09 | SRPA21 | SARB065 | 0606092 | Mako XL | SRPD95 | Timex Marlin | DW5600 | Weekender | G9000MS-1 | AE1200WHD-1A


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    Re: 30th Birthday Watch: Gold Rolex vs. Lange vs. Indy

    Quote Originally Posted by Pun View Post
    I would suggest you to glacé at Patek Philippe watches as well. For around $40k you’ve many good options for complication watches. I somehow find an air of royalty in their watches. You get an assurance of life time service for the watch.

    Many independent watchmakers can’t ensure lifetime service. We don’t know what system of services would evolve after they left this terra firma. Most of them are one man show and market forces in luxury segment are very ruthless indeed.
    That's one fear I always have. Service. Journe probably did the right thing selling a stake in the company to ensure longevity. A lot of the others, not so much.
    Current: 405.035 | 234.026 | 1016 | 16700 | 116400GV | 214270 | Longines Mystery | AT4008-51E | SKX009 | Sistem Frog | Swatch Mickey | Steelers | GWM5610

    Gone: Q2712410 | 4500v | 5167a | 277.2.22 |
    15400 | 15450 | 126711CHNR | 126660 | Geophysic 1958 | 116610LV | 116710BLNR | 116610LN | MUT Moon Black | 16710 Pepsi | 126234 | 397846J | 114060 (x2) | JLC MC Date | PAM911 | PAM560 | 214270 (x2) | Speedy Tuesday | SBGJ227 | SBGH269 | SBGH267 | SBGA413 | Santos | PAM914 | SBGA125 | SBGA211 (x3) | Speedy Pro (x2) | SBGA375 | SMP300 Wave | 25600TB | SBGW231 | BB GMT (x2) | BB58 | SBGN005 | SBGV247 | SBGX091 | SBGX093 | 79220R | Aquis | SLA019 | SLA023 | Tangente 38 | Oris 65 | Memovox | 6694 | Helbros Chrono | SPB075 | SPB083 | SBDC051 (x2) | Seaforth III | SBP089 | Atmos 528-8 | Hamilton Navy Pioneer | 7619-7010 | Visodate | Khaki 38mm | 6139-7020 | 6138-0017 | SRPB09 | SRPA21 | SARB065 | 0606092 | Mako XL | SRPD95 | Timex Marlin | DW5600 | Weekender | G9000MS-1 | AE1200WHD-1A


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