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    What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    High end luxury is all about paying a premium to get the very best.

    So what makes your high end watch so much better than the watches in the entry level luxury category(<$5,000)

    Some ideas:

    Technology - for this one, actually list the technology and tell us what it does. Note, this has to be unique tech that is unique to that brand.

    Production - 100 hours spent on each watch by a single artisan over 6 months? Or maybe its super limited edition and there are 7 of these watches in the entire world? Or maybe it has a super complicated design that uses space age materials

    In-House Movement - for this one, since a lot of cheaper watches have in-house too, to use this one, the movement needs to offer something unique, it can't be just another 3 hander automatic with 40-50 hours of power reserve. So has to offer something like a different subdial seconds placement or a power reserve above 80 hours(since you can get that in a cheap Tissot these days) or a rotor made from unobtanium.


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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    "Better" is all relative to the criteria used. I mean functionally my phone keeps better time than my much more expensive watches...I could strap one of those to my wrists...oh wait someone already came up with that idea!

    More to your point though: What are the differentiating factors between entry luxury vs higher end luxury?

    While I think many in our community focus on finishing and quality, particularly with the movement (oftentimes used as a surrogate for quality) and this certainly contributes to the price, the other more common factors are brand name and the perception (or actuality) of exclusivity. (AKA the same criteria for most luxury goods).

    I would argue that as an example, the meteoric rise of the Patek Philippe Nautilus on the secondary market has much more to do with the latter than any quality measure, technology, or that it has an "in house movement".
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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    Finishing.

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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    I think the #1 difference would be finishing and quality control... particularly movement finishing, but sometimes case, dial, and hands too.
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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    When I look at and handle my high end pieces vs my luxury pieces and even my fun pieces there is a substantial difference in the fit, finish and feel of each of them. To different people this will certainly weigh in very differently and different watches excel in different areas. I'll give you a blaring example.... my Rolex Daytona has the best pusher and crown feel in the business and the case is certainly finished to an 8/10 standard (Patek/Lange/Vacheron, etc being 10/10) but the movement is covered up because it just isn't the same level of others. It is reliable and robust but not as attractive with the high end degree of finishing.

    For me, a watch having integrity is more important that prestige/image. One of my favorite watches is a my Zenith Wounded Warriors edition with a legendary El primero movement. It's just a fun watch that will never be as special to the open market as it is to me. A timex or swatch also has integrity because are true to themselves and their pricepoint. The antithesis of this are things like Porsche Watches at MSRP(I have one I like that I got ridiculously discounted) and Hublot where you get a pedestrian movement, below average finishing and a fashion name brand that's trendy for the moment.

    Things like in house movements are interesting but not deal breakers for me. JLC and Zenith have made some of the best movements in the business for brands perceptively much more prestigious as their own yet don't get the same love as the very movements in a branded watch.
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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    Yes, finishing, particularly artistry in finishing. The idea that Lange assembles each of its movements, makes sure that it is working perfectly, then disassembles them, finishes everything, then puts it back together again.

    The watch I own with the most spectacular finishing (front and back) is completely under the radar when worn, other than to true ultra watch people (and probably not even all of them). I actually like that, plus I know (and marvel over) the work that went into it every time a look at it.
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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    Because I like it more?

    Or is this one of those, "you have no justification for paying X for a watch, because I said so," threads? Please tell me that this isn't one of those.

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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alysandir View Post
    Because I like it more?

    Or is this one of those, "you have no justification for paying X for a watch, because I said so," threads? Please tell me that this isn't one of those.

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    no this is one of those tell me what makes your watch special beyond the brand name on the dial

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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    Quote Originally Posted by mlcor View Post
    Yes, finishing, particularly artistry in finishing. The idea that Lange assembles each of its movements, makes sure that it is working perfectly, then disassembles them, finishes everything, then puts it back together again.

    The watch I own with the most spectacular finishing (front and back) is completely under the radar when worn, other than to true ultra watch people (and probably not even all of them). I actually like that, plus I know (and marvel over) the work that went into it every time a look at it.
    My Blancpain Bathyscaph isn't my most expensive or cheapest but is my most under the radar watch. I consider it high end. I have been in a group where people "oogle" someone's Rolex right next to me. It doesn't bother me though because those are people impressed by a brand and not what makes a watch special to me. It annoys me when I wear a Rolex and people comment on it because I just assume they aren't watch people and usually I simply reply that its a fake. If someone comments on my Vacheron Overseas or Bathyscaph then I enjoy the interaction because consistently they are actual watch people. The majority of the population thinks a movado, shinola or even a Michael kors is a high end luxury watch... It's all relative.

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    Re: What makes your high end watch so much better than entry level luxury watches?

    Quote Originally Posted by erdini View Post
    High end luxury is all about paying a premium to get the very best.
    Humm... no, it isn't.

    "paying a premium to get the very best" is a part about high end luxury, but certainly not all about it.

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