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    5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design ***CLOSED***

    The 2013 project watch will utilize an Explorer Case so please feel free to submit your ideas on this theme.

    The price is US$220 (not including shipping or add-ons)

    Current Watch Specification:

    • 316L Stainless Steel 40mm Explorer Case (polished/brushed or a combination of both) 20mm lug width
    • 200 meter water resistance
    • Crown at 3 O’clock
    • Miyota 8215 automatic movement (White date wheel if voted for)
    • Superluminova (choice of color)
    • Custom dial, with any texture/pattern or combination of textures/patterns we choose (within reason) and applied metal indices (unless otherwise specified in the design)
    • Any hands we choose, so long as they are “stock” hands (not a design which requires new tooling)
    • Crystal - Flat sapphire (can be changed by vote)
    • Stainless Steel Bracelet with solid curved end links
    • Crown, Clasp, Caseback and Dial markings of our choosing
    • Zippered Case with Watchuseek Logo
    • 2 year warranty


    Register here LINK if you haven't done so already.

    All designs should utilize the specifications above and the explorer case or a render that looks very much like it.
    This post will be updated as questions are asked. The committee will do it’s best to respond to questions within 24 hours. If you do not receive an answer the question has most likely been answered. Please check this post first so we can reduce time spent responding.

    UPDATED - 5/29/13

    Thank you everyone for your input so far. At this time we are requesting that no more dial designs be posted or submitted. We are in the process now of organizing the next steps.
    Thanks again for your efforts in the design thus far.

    ****DIAL DESIGN SUBMISSIONS CLOSED****


    1Q. What is the diameter of dial (as ochong asked)? (We need this if we are going to source "stock" hands for our design - can't use hands that are too short or too long).
    1A. 33.5mm

    2Q. What are the sizes of the hand posts on the Miyota 8215 according to Fred Bernhardt (i.e., what size is the minute hand on the Binnacle Anchor)? This may seem like a dumb question, but just ask Citizen V and you'll know that it ain't. (Again, we need this if we are going to source "stock" hands for our design).
    2A. Fred is the watchmaker, he'll worry about it.

    3Q. What are our color choices for the Superluminova? Can this be applied to just the hands, or to the hands and the dial?
    3A. Current assumption is that you can pick from the chart. Lume on hands and indices.

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    4Q. Clarification: I assume "white date wheel if voted for" means "white date wheel if date window voted for"?
    4A. Correct. The date wheel is white with black numbers. We will vote on whether the watch will include a date window so designs could be presented with either option if desired.

    5. Can we do date window at 6:00 (requires a different date wheel), or are we locked into 3:00 or 4:30?
    5A. Date location options: 3:00, 4:00, 4:30 nothing else.

    6Q. OK so it has been stated that all 200 watches are going to be the same. My question is will all 200 dials be the same?
    6A. All 200 dials will be the same.

    7Q. Will the AWF Forum watch have the Bernhardt logo on the dial?
    7A. The Bernhardt logo is not a design requirement.

    8. Drilled lugs with screw-bar-tubes are also an option if we want them.

    Thank you,
    Your 2013 Project Committee

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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    For design purposes, what is the size of the face?

    Thanks!

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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    Thanks, theague!

    Okay, some details we need:

    1. What is the diameter of dial (as ochong asked)? (We need this if we are going to source "stock" hands for our design - can't use hands that are too short or too long).

    2. What are the sizes of the hand posts on the Miyota 8215 according to Fred Bernhardt (i.e., what size is the minute hand on the Binnacle Anchor)? This may seem like a dumb question, but just ask Citizen V and you'll know that it ain't. (Again, we need this if we are going to source "stock" hands for our design).

    3. What are our color choices for the Superluminova? Can this be applied to just the hands, or to the hands and the dial?

    4. Clarification: I assume "white date wheel if voted for" means "white date wheel if date window voted for"?

    5. Can we do date window at 6:00 (requires a different date wheel), or are we locked into 3:00 or 4:30?

    Thanks again!!!

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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    I measured the face on my Binnacle Anchor as 33mm diameter, Ochong. This assumes that Mr. Amos at Bernhardt is using the Binnacle case.

    It may be a hair smaller, though (I measured it with a mm rule, and not calipers).

    -Dioptric
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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    Thanks Dioptric! Certainly close enough to get started with.

    Good questions Jake. The devil is in the details and it's best to get them out in the open at the start.

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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    OK so it has been stated that all 200 watches are going to be the same. My question is will all 200 dials be the same? Is the option open of doing the same watch with two dial colors available as long as the hands/indices etc are the same? I'm asking only to help this project to appeal to as many people as possible. I know the current Chinese project has two dial colors (with a possible third that may become available) while maintaining the same look/case/movement and they also provided two options for the second hands. I'm the last guy that wants to start a wave of people being picky and wanting 100 variations so please let me know if this is out of the question.


    Any who as for my suggestions...I apologize but I have no skills at "rendering" mock ups. I will say though that I liked the Explorer and Aqua Terra homage mock ups that were posted in the voting thread (hopefully those people will re-post their renderings in the appropriate thread now that it is open).

    Things I would like to see:
    --texture to the dial (sunburst, waves, checkerboard, lines), just something that makes it pop from different angles
    --lume at all the hour marks and on at least the hour/minute hands (I can go either way on seconds lume)
    --really indifferent on date so I'll leave this to people who really care
    --a second hand that isn't just a stick (a pointer, a meatball, just have something at the end)

    That is all that is on my mind currently.
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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    I've always like the bernhardt binnacle anchor's second hand. It's an ANCHOR! Can we get one of those (mr bernhardt may have lots of extra ones)? Actually the things I would like to see:

    1. Case without the shroud covering over the empty space between the lugs (prefer it to be like most watch case)

    2. Case finish all brushed except for maybe the bezel

    3. Bracelet to be all brushed

    4.if we are going with an explorer dial, I prefer the old 1016 explorer style numbers over the newer boxy number

    thats all for now.
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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    Quote Originally Posted by mopmop77 View Post
    I've always like the bernhardt binnacle anchor's second hand. It's an ANCHOR! Can we get one of those (mr bernhardt may have lots of extra ones)? Actually the things I would like to see:

    1. Case without the shroud covering over the empty space between the lugs (prefer it to be like most watch case)

    2. Case finish all brushed except for maybe the bezel

    3. Bracelet to be all brushed

    4.if we are going with an explorer dial, I prefer the old 1016 explorer style numbers over the newer boxy number

    thats all for now.
    Agree with all this and IRBilldozer. Having a Binnacle Anchor, and having bought one for a relative, I had my relative's Binnacle bracelet completely brushed, and it looks fantastic. I wish I had my Binnacle anchor bracelet completely brushed after seeing his.

    In terms of the date, it seems a waste to not have it if the complication is there. Plus, the Binnacle Anchor already doesn't have a date, so this watch would be distinct from the Binnacle Anchor in that aspect.


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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    Listening and watching. Carry on.
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    Re: 5. 2013 WUS AWF SE Explorer Project - Design

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullers1845 View Post
    Listening and watching. Carry on.
    "...and watching."

    I see what you did there.
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