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    Off Topic post 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Hi everybody,


    Here we are finishing the dial!!!

    The winners were:




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    Now to these already crowded dials we must add these elements!!!:


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    Although it's present in the cockpit, I have discarded the dials with only the 12, 2, 4 6, 8, 10 numerals because once you take off the 6 and 12, it has no sense.


    A VERY IMPORTANT thing to keep in mind is color.
    Unless we go for a black and white scheme, color is very very important to soft the visual impact or to enhance each element. This will be a future and last discussion, but keep in mind that some element that are too distractives now, may be almost invisible in the future.


    After many iterations and trials I've come to these different dial proposals:




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    My intention was to explain everything as usual, but the post was too long (really too long). So I prefer to post this as is, and then answer any question.


    We can discuss during the week why I have come to these dials.


    Hope you like them.


    One more thing:


    About the font (specially the number 3):
    I've researching about WWII fonts, and pilot watches fonts or typography. I didn't come to any conclusion about the types used in these aircraft so I have used helvetica rounded (in the cockpit's pictures I have, numbers seem to be rounded), 6 and 9 are different but we use only the 9, the 1 is replaced by an l. The result is very compact, legible, with a modern touch IMHO. The only important caveat is the number 3.

    By WWII the usual shape of the 3 was:


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    I have decided to use a "modern" 3:


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    Because: nowadays the old 3 is barely used and I find it similar to a 5, and, most important, the date has a "modern" 3 so 5 / 6 days each month we would have two different 3s very close each other in the dial. I now I can't live with it...


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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Happy New Year to all of you! Glad to see some activity again!

    I like the 2s, specifically 2a and 2c. 2b with it's triangle, looks a little cluttered at the 12 o'clock position.
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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    This is going to be a tough choice! But before I write anything about my preferences, I have to say one IMPORTANT thing:

    This is still black and white only. These designs transform so much, when you add colors and hands. As a part of our management process, I was given a sneak peek at some colored versions and I have to tell you I was very amazed with the change the subtle coloring gives to the design of the dial... I can assure you, whatever design wins, you will be so much surprised when colors nad hands are added. And Claudio knows how to perk up the design!

    So back to the stage we are at now: I assume (and I have to confirm with Claudio) that these designs are ranked by Claudio's preference. So for Claudio 1a is the best. I will start from my least preferred option and that is 3. I don't like 3 at all...

    The design #2 is excellent in any variant, but I prefer 2b.

    The design #1 is on par with #2, but it lacks the PR subdial subtle specialty. But anyhow, I would love 1a as much as I would love 2b.

    Now I only hope that majority shares my preferences...

    One question Claudio, is there a reason why 2b has only 12-3 half minute hashes?

    Excellent work BTW, I love them all except #3...
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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Quote Originally Posted by docjoe View Post
    Happy New Year to all of you! Glad to see some activity again!

    I like the 2s, specifically 2a and 2c. 2b with it's triangle, looks a little cluttered at the 12 o'clock position.
    Well sorry for that, the Christmas season and subsequent work back log gave me a headache...
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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Thank you CM and Claudio for keeping the momentum going!

    I am drawn to 2b, but I cannot unsee the "sad face" at 12 o'clock...

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    ...so I would switch the 12 indicator from 2c.

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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    What is the difference between 1a and 1b?
    The dial colour? I thought we weren't getting involved with colour selection yet?

    At any rate, 1b and 2b are easy wins for me.
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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Great work guys, I've missed having something to think about. I don't mean work or family I mean something really important!!

    Ok here goes...

    i don't like 3 at all...so that's easy.

    On the subject of 3s I was really disappointed that you'd decided against a WWII style 3 as I really like that look, but I hadn't thought about the clash with the date font. (Claudio, that's why you are a designer and I'm not!) It would drive me nuts also.

    I could live with the 2s but really liking all the 1s, but here's the thing. I really don't like the triangle at 12. It makes it look like a million other flieger/aviation watches, and I'm open to correction, but it doesn't appear on many cockpit instruments. Is there any chance we could have a 12, or do something different with the space?
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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Quote Originally Posted by Horoticus View Post
    Thank you CM and Claudio for keeping the momentum going!

    I am drawn to 2b, but I cannot unsee the "sad face" at 12 o'clock...

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    ...so I would switch the 12 indicator from 2c.
    Thank you...now I can't I see it!
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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmodromedary View Post
    What is the difference between 1a and 1b?
    The dial colour? I thought we weren't getting involved with colour selection yet?

    At any rate, 1b and 2b are easy wins for me.
    Good question! I didn't notice! Please Claudio comment on this as soon as it is convenient for you. My explanation is, that it is a mistake... I would guess that 1a should have looked more like 2a? Let's hear what Claudio has to say...
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    Re: 005 - Project THOR - Dial design thread part TWO

    Quote Originally Posted by Horoticus View Post
    Thank you CM and Claudio for keeping the momentum going!

    I am drawn to 2b, but I cannot unsee the "sad face" at 12 o'clock...

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    ...so I would switch the 12 indicator from 2c.
    LOL...Now I can see it as well...And I can't un-see it from now on!
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