So this happened today. Picked up my new 003 at Toppers (I was the 3rd one today so apparently selling like hotcakes), the sales lady who helped me out Jay made the experience a truly amazing one. Highly recommended if you're looking for a hard to find GS. Now I want an SBGV245 lol
Okay 2 questions for you guys:
1) are my hands misaligned? The GMT hand doesn't land squarely on 24 hours when it is already 1 minute past 12 am
2) I heard the date snap over from the 11th to the 12th at 12:03 or 12:04 am. At this point, I think the GMT hand also finally moved onto/past 24 hours. I find it hard to believe this is within the 9F86 movement's specs?
Not trying to be overly nitpicky but I shelled out $3K for this watch - I never thought I'd pay this kind of money for a quartz and if the 9F86 is indeed state of the art technology I expect absolute perfection at this price point.
Is anybody else experiencing the same "flaws" that I am?
These are flaws that are only really noticeable when looking for them, but these kinds of flaws shouldn’t be there on this level of watchmaking. I would give them the opportunity to fix it before making broader judgements. It will suck to be without the watch for a while, but I personally think it is worth it, and the right thing to do.
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My local seiko service centre said its with in spec and politely told me to go away.
I’ve gotten over it as it’s my beater watch but this is the key area Gs call behind the likes of Rolex or omega. AS service is very weak.
As for the date change as 3-4 mins that’s def in spec. The manual says as much. For that to be fair my Rolex datejust behaves the same way. This is why GS might be saying it’s in spec. Date changes 0-5 mins past midnight so if the gmt hand is up to 5 mins behind they don’t care. I’m not saying it’s okay. They obsess over quality and then do this...
Last edited by gumpy_999; October 13th, 2019 at 00:30.
$3K for a quartz...it better be absolutely PERFECT.
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I have two GS quartz watches now. The 009 and the 117 diver. Both keep impeccable time. The case, fit and finish on mine are, to me, quite amazing.
Having said that, both watches have the exact same quirk. I'm fine with it as it appears when I see reviews online, even THOSE watches have this issue:
When the seconds hand is 0-30, they are just about perfect in alignment to the tick mark on the face. 31-59, they are ever so slightly behind/below the tick mark. I noticed this on day one and when I look at them in shop, I've never seen one that wasn't almost just like this. I'M OK WITH IT lol. It's a quirk I don't mind having. Both are under warranty and I'm tempted to see if they can make them perfect. But time will tell as I think about it.
Are both still worth the money I paid....indeed. and I'd buy them both again. I'm looking at buying another quartz from them...and I bet it does the same thing.
And now I bet when you look at yours, you might notice it and I just drove you nuts!!!
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So I was able to exchange my sbgn003 for another one where GMT hand is perfect aligned and date snaps over at 12 am on the dot. However, the seconds hand has worse alignment and is off from 16 to 45 seconds (about half the dial).
It's a tradeoff I can live with bc gmt hand alignment on the hour is more important than seconds, but if this drift/diversion continues in the future does anybody know if this is something GS will cover under warranty? If not, can any competent watchmaker align the seconds hand?
I freaking love this watch and the seconds hand alignment + needs more lume are the ONLY flaws in my opinion.
The seconds hand alignment is something you cant really help.... unless it is consistently hitting right/left a bit.
However, the GMT hamd alignment along witht the date changing at 12am is something a watchmaker can adjust relatively easily.
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