If you really wanted to get a look of patina, but not hinder the luminosity, how about this: a sapphire with a slight brown tint to it. There is a sapphire crystal currently available for Seiko cases to fit the ubiquitous SKX007 and it gives a brand new dial a patina look...but won't hurt the glow of the lume (as the tint is in the glass, not the actual paint).
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If the only luming option is bright, white or green luminova, I would prefer a non lumed watch (Which I guess is true to the original also)
BTW: What material is used for an unlumed watch? I assume this material will fade with age? If so, I am happy that the watch will fade with age like myself
This is a great project! I'd be more than happy to offer up my design/illustration skills if needed? I know you have a great watch to model it after, but if you need any assistance with mock-ups please let me know.
This is one I will be keeping a close watch on - no pun intended :)
I'm a little 'scared' (in a figurative sense) and I'll let you in on my fears.
Each A-11 variant, although similar to others, has its own 'balance' in terms of design and proportions. My personal favourite is the Elgin A-11 with waterproof case that you don't see too often on the interweb (it's a two piece case with a stepped bezel). My 'fear' is that if you start to marry A-11 design elements together (i.e. a Bulova style case with an Elgin style dial) you can create a 'mutt' that's not at all in keeping with the 1940s watch design aesthetic. Assuage my fear: pick one A-11 variant, and one variant only, and stick with it.
Don't touch that crown. Itsy bitsy ~ 30mm case and a proportionately humongous crown - that's a 1940s US mil watch aesthetic that should only be tampered with at your own peril. Keep the proportions of that crown.
The case lines: something you can only really see in real life and that photos do a poor job of representing. A 1940s watch has very specific lines that seem almost 'cartoonish' to us in 2008. My fear is that cold angular precision might be used to create a case with lines that look like they were milled in 2008 in the German Black Forest: make those case lines flow and capture that 1940s US watch manufacturer aesthetic. Don't take liberties, go with the flow of the mid century lines.
You'll choose to use a knurled bezel. That's more 'pet peeve' than 'fear' but do keep in mind that a knurled bezel was used for very functional reasons (i.e. to be able to screw off the bezel). Since we are producing this watch in 2008 and since water-resistance does matter to us, I highly doubt Mr. Yao will want to machine a case that has a knurled caseback and a knurled bezel that can be removed with minimally dry fingers. Unless your knurled bezel is functional, please choose an A-11 variant that has a two piece 'waterproof' case. Knurling for knurling's sake is just plain wrong (and if I were Supreme Intergalactic Commander, it would be criminal).
Last edited by Don Aldo; December 2nd, 2008 at 05:16.
all great points IMO.
agree on all four points
Any chance we can gather photos of the various versions and make a poll where all those that paid reservation can vote to check preferences?
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I think that would be a great idea... obviously there is going to be a bit of feasibility that will need to go into whatever decisions get made. Maybe we are a bit too early in the process for a list like this (still gathering options/feasibilities), but I for one would like to see something like this (for deposit holders only) as soon as its deemed fit. I think it would help everyone, those who have made deposits/those who are still on the fence to start to see a clear direction for the project. I think it'd help it to feel more real since we are still so far from seeing the finished product....
Well, I'm excited to see how this turns out. I'm going to hold off and hope I find a manual wind in a watch that looks close to the A11 starting this thread. It should be fun watching how this one takes shape.
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