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    Ginault Ocean Rover?

    I came across this, via one of the ads on here, and had a look purely out of interest:



    https://ginault.com/ocean-rover-181070gsln/

    I am missing something here, but isn't this just an expensive Rolex homage?

    Some of the statements were interesting:

    We spent 7 years, 275 trials and errors and countless tests to finally produce the maritime chronometer grade perpetual caliber that we are so proud to encase in each Ginault timepiece

    ......did they really make their own movement or is it just a modified one?

    Couldn't find any reviews of this.
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    Re: Ginault Ocean Rover?

    Looked like they made their own movements. Not sure if it's entirely original or which part is original design.

    But too bad they didn't spend too much time on the look of the watch because it does look like any other rolex homages


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    Quote Originally Posted by abangr View Post
    Looked like they made their own movements. Not sure if it's entirely original or which part is original design.

    But too bad they didn't spend too much time on the look of the watch because it does look like any other rolex homages


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    Well, I do love a sub homage if it's well done..........

    I just love all the blurb about forging the marks and that they (along with presumably rolex?) are the only ones in the world that can do this........

    .......no idea about the golden sand luminescent material, but it sounds good!
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    Re: Ginault Ocean Rover?

    to mutch Money dear friend!go for Steinhart or davosa diver!
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    Re: Ginault Ocean Rover?

    Quote Originally Posted by kostantinos View Post
    to mutch Money dear friend!go for Steinhart or davosa diver!
    I don't have any intention of buying one, I'm just curious as to the claims and the price..........
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    Re: Ginault Ocean Rover?

    Quote Originally Posted by abangr View Post
    Looked like they made their own movements. Not sure if it's entirely original or which part is original design.
    I saw the advert here on WUS, too, and was wondering the same thing. The movement they use is a 100% Eta 2824 clone. Compare these two pictures, the first is the Eta, the second from Ginault's website:

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    The spring of Ginault's shock protection looks similar to the ones used by Seagull. However, Ginault claims "This is Ginault Caliber 7275. 25 Red Jewels, Pd46 Palladium-Copper Alloy Main Plate & Bridge, Blue Steel Screws, GC31 Gears, Nivarox Hairspring, Nivarox Mainspring, WJL Shock Absorber, Date, Hour/Minute/Second Hands, 28,800 BPH, 38 Hours Power Reserve, Original 1972 Design. Cut, Machined, Assembled and Fine Tuned in the United States."

    Soooo, there is a US company copying Eta 2824 movements..?? And it took them seven years to do that..?
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    Re: Ginault Ocean Rover?

    Quote Originally Posted by ffritz View Post
    I saw the advert here on WUS, too, and was wondering the same thing. The movement thye use is a 100% Eta 2824 clone. Compare these two pictures, the first is the Eta, the second from Ginault's website:

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    The spring of Ginault's shock protection looks similar to the ones used by Seagull. However, Ginault claims "This is Ginault Caliber 7275. 25 Red Jewels, Pd46 Palladium-Copper Alloy Main Plate & Bridge, Blue Steel Screws, GC31 Gears, Nivarox Hairspring, Nivarox Mainspring, WJL Shock Absorber, Date, Hour/Minute/Second Hands, 28,800 BPH, 38 Hours Power Reserve, Original 1972 Design. Cut, Machined, Assembled and Fine Tuned in the United States."

    Soooo, there is a US company copying Eta 2824 movements..?? And it took them seven years to do that..?
    Interesting, I'd forgive them if it wasn't for the blurb about 7 years development........
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    Ginault Ocean Rover?

    The part about the lume material is over the top.

    Apparently you have to go as far as possible to obtain it.

    From their website

    We travelled to Alaska and to the very southern tip of Argentina in search for this luminescent material in order to bring the vintageness and class to Ginault


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    Re: Ginault Ocean Rover?

    Quote Originally Posted by jlow28 View Post
    The part about the lume material is over the top.

    Apparently you have to go as far as possible to obtain it.

    From their website

    We travelled to Alaska and to the very southern tip of Argentina in search for this luminescent material in order to bring the vintageness and class to Ginault


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    Apparently you can just order luminous sand from China:

    https://m.alibaba.com/showroom/luminous-sand.html

    No need for expensive adventures across the globe.......
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    Re: Ginault Ocean Rover?

    It is most definitely a 2824 clone as ffritz points out. My read of the situation, looking at his past productions and what he is saying about the movement, is that he may be machining his own base and bridge plates for a 2824, installing some custom geartrain components, and then installing stock (or maybe Asian clone) parts for the rest (from the blue screws, I'd guess Asian). Like, literally, one guy, one plate at a time. He seems to be a legit watchmaker. I think that may explain the price. Yes, he's doing a ton of custom work per movement, but its all for a 2824 clone...

    Or he's full of crap and he's just grinding off the ETA stamp under the balance and calling it perlage.

    As for the watch. Meh. It's a Sub homage. A nice one, but there are nicer at a better price point (*cough* NTH *cough*). I really dislike the misfit between the end links and the lugs. A lot.
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