An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130
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    An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130

    Came across this picture of a ST2130 movement and thought people might like to see it.

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    And I guess it will be very similar to what an ETA2824 or SW-200 looks like in exploded fashion too

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    Re: An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130

    That's pretty cool. Is this particular Seagull movement based on the similar ETA? If so, how does copyright work when it comes to producing movements that are identical or nearly-identical to others? If you have any suggested reading on the topic, I'd be interested.

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    Re: An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130

    Quote Originally Posted by OnyxNight View Post
    That's pretty cool. Is this particular Seagull movement based on the similar ETA? If so, how does copyright work when it comes to producing movements that are identical or nearly-identical to others? If you have any suggested reading on the topic, I'd be interested.
    I don't think watch movement copyright exists in China.
    The ST2130 is based on the 2824-2.
    https://watchguy.co.uk/comparison-sea-gull-st2130-eta-2824-2-peacock-sl3000/

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    Re: An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130

    That makes sense, thanks.

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    Re: An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130

    Quote Originally Posted by OnyxNight View Post
    That's pretty cool. Is this particular Seagull movement based on the similar ETA? If so, how does copyright work when it comes to producing movements that are identical or nearly-identical to others? If you have any suggested reading on the topic, I'd be interested.
    You can read the great teardown review of the ST2130/Hangzhou/ETA2824 article on our very own WUS on this thread (sadly the photobucket links appear to be dead):
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f100/h...ok-216945.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey_like_watch View Post
    I don't think watch movement copyright exists in China.
    The ST2130 is based on the 2824-2.
    https://watchguy.co.uk/comparison-sea-gull-st2130-eta-2824-2-peacock-sl3000/
    Slight correction - watch movement copyright doesn't exist anywhere around the world - *puts on lawyer hat* - patents are the IP protection method for these tangible objects and any patents associated with the building of the 2824 expired long long ago (patents usually last 20 years), the 2824 was introduced in 1961. *takes off lawyer hat*

    So anyone can build a movement that uses all the bits and pieces of the 2824 - what they can't do is call it an ETA 2824 - that falls under trademark protection. Calling it a Sea-Gull 2824 may still be problematic also (the same reason why Ferrari couldn't call their car the F150 because Ford threw a strop and thought people would confuse an American pickup truck with an Italian racecar :D ) - source: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-12417757

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    Re: An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130

    Quote Originally Posted by seagullfan View Post
    patents are the IP protection method for these tangible objects and any patents associated with the building of the 2824 expired long long ago (patents usually last 20 years), the 2824 was introduced in 1961.
    Yup. That's why the Sea-Gull ST2130 is not the only movement based on the ETA 2824-2: so is the Sellita SW200 -- and probably a large number of so-called "in-house" movements from Swiss brands after ETA started cutting them off from buying ETA movements.

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    Re: An exploded view of the Sea-Gull ST2130

    Quote Originally Posted by seagullfan View Post
    ...the same reason why Ferrari couldn't call their car the F150 because Ford threw a strop and thought people would confuse an American pickup truck with an Italian racecar :D ) - source: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-12417757
    Someone at Ford needs to visit the opticians; no one else is likely to confuse the two.

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