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    Is the SL6601 an original design?

    (moderator's note - I've splits this discussion into its own thread to avoid too much digression in the 'Final prototype pictures' thread)

    The rotor looks great but "Swiss Technology"

    .... Was hoping that wouldn't be there.





    I'm very excited for more photos :)
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    Re: Final prototypes pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Deij View Post
    The rotor looks great but "Swiss Technology"

    .... Was hoping that wouldn't be there.





    I'm very excited for more photos :)
    How did you know there's a "Swiss" underneath the rotor?

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    Re: Final prototypes pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Deij View Post
    The rotor looks great but "Swiss Technology"
    For an F72 watch, I think it adds charm. I'm for it!

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    Re: Final prototypes pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Rex View Post
    How did you know there's a "Swiss" underneath the rotor?
    I've seen it before.

    The movement is a Chinese 'copy' of a Swiss movement. The movement this one copies says Made in Switzerland in the same spot.
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    Re: Final prototypes pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Deij View Post
    The movement is a Chinese 'copy' of a Swiss movement. The movement this one copies says Made in Switzerland in the same spot.
    What movement is this a copy of?
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    Re: Final prototypes pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Deij View Post
    I've seen it before.

    The movement is a Chinese 'copy' of a Swiss movement. The movement this one copies says Made in Switzerland in the same spot.
    Cheers mate. Then this should say "Chung Kuo Technology" to complete the Confusion :)

    Edit: I was half kidding of course. Chinese manufacturers shouldn't be so modest before the Swiss or Japanese nowadays
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    Re: Final prototypes pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by sidney004 View Post
    For an F72 watch, I think it adds charm. I'm for it!
    I disagree. If such an inscription had been visible on the original sample shown, I would probably have objected as detracting from a Chinese watch forum project.

    I'm still curious to know what this is supposed to be a "copy" of because I don't recall ever seeing a Swiss watch movement inscribed "Swiss Technology". It seems somehow redundant. Perhaps there is some confusion with the company called Swiss Technology Production (STP)? But even their movements are not inscribed "Swiss Technology".
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    Re: Final prototypes pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Chascomm View Post
    What movement is this a copy of?
    I've been informed that the 'copy' is supposedly of the IWC 5001 7-day movement. The Pellaton auto-winding system is prominently visible lying in the same plane as the fully-exposed ratchet wheel. There are numerous other obvious differences that mark the Liaoning SL-6601 as a unique design.


    https://www.iwc.com/forum/en/discussion/65497/

    I think that it would be fairer to say that the 6601, like several other Chinese movements having PR at 3, date at 6 and seconds at 9, has been used by fakers of IWC watches, rather than that it has been made for the specific purpose of faking. For those who doubt that, consider the development cost involved in establishing production of an all new movement and consider whether those costs could be justified in faking one line of one Swiss brand whose connoisseur fans know exactly what to look for through a display case back.
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    Re: Is the SL6601 an original design?

    An experienced friend of mine actually dissected a SL6601, and he found a subsections of the the 7750 and one other movement (perhaps it was the 2824, I forgot), which is not really surprising because Liaoning makes Chinese clones of these classic Swiss movements (actually it seems that their 7750 clone is pretty good), but of course a lot of pieces are specific for this SL6601 movement.

    Today we did the QC of the project watches, and we found 3 watches with the wrong inscription, it should say power reserve on the movement. It turned out that we accidentally received in error 3 variant movements that were in fact for a different customer of Peacock. These will be replaced for our project.
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    Re: Is the SL6601 an original design?

    Thanks for clearing that up.

    (...and Deij, I'm sorry; I realise now that I had thought that you were saying that the movement was inscribed "Swiss Technology" because it is a copy of a Swiss movement, but really you were saying that it was inscribed "Swiss Technology" and it is a copy of a Swiss movement. Two separate statements. )
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