(photo credit mb8780)
I've not yet published a review, but at risk of spoilers, my conclusions after several weeks of near-daily wear:
- This watch is cheeky as hell
- This watch is good enough to be cheeky as hell
It would be worth the discounted ask with a throwaway 2824-2 clone, and it IS worth the ask with the movement it comes with... whatever its origins.
Regarding the speculation about watchmaker reactions, a German owner took his to a pro (https://uhrforum.de/der-ginault-ocea...#post3415500):
The Bergeon die for the Rolex fits the case exactly:
Watchmaker asked if it was ETA or Sellita, but did not feel the movement included any Chinese "nonsense"
(all pics credit Finlay 1/Sascha)
Pls correct my poor comprehension of German if required, but I understand his watchmaker was very impressed with the whole watch, and would have no issues working on this movement.
While I'm no watchmaker, I can fix a 2824 keyless in minutes, but would refuse to do so on a Chinese movement, unless the owner jumped for Swiss keyless replacement parts (which when bought individually would cost as much as the Chinese clone). Saying some watchmaker refused to fix some Chinese ETA clone with some issue is not an indictment of the Ginault movement, especially when a professional looking closely at a Ginault movement says otherwise.
Finally, as I noted about hwa's open caseback pic, the Ginault case has turn-to-remove Rolex mounts and appears to accept a 3135 Rolex movement without the ring. This movement ring would similarly allow you to drop a 2824-2 into a Rolex case. These rings exist mostly for high-end fake watches, with which the Ginault may share some parts and supply chain.
Should we care?
We can only vote with our wallets. I won't buy fakes and I won't buy crap. Whatever the past lives of the people or parts, this watch is up with the best quality I've seen, and I'm happy to encourage Ginault in this direction: