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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    Hyperbolic claims, ridiculous MSRP offset by equally ridiculous discounts (upto 65% now?)... Ginault guys must've stolen the playbook straight from Invicta.

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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    Quote Originally Posted by RNHC View Post
    Hyperbolic claims, ridiculous MSRP offset by equally ridiculous discounts (upto 65% now?)... Ginault guys must've stolen the playbook straight from Invicta.
    I agree that MSRP is out of line, but it's not even on the same planet as Invicta marketing (if it were, the MSRP would be $6k, lol). That claim could also be characterised as "hyperbolic".

    Perhaps closer to Hexa's handling of the Osprey, which was inflated by likely 40%. I didn't see a 65% discount. Sold all my sub homages so can't leverage the 60% offer. I would add that plenty of crowd-sourced and other pre-order micro options show a significant discount vs "later MSRP" too. It's all a game. At under $600 with best discount on offer, and given the finishing and at least partial in-house movement, this is not a terrible deal at all.
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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    seems a very built watch and I appreciate the effort to fine tuning the movt, unfortunately I do not like the writing on the dial too many fancy words, a sterile or less cluttered dial would have been a better choice imo
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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    Quote Originally Posted by Casanova Jr. View Post
    seems a very built watch and I appreciate the effort to fine tuning the movt, unfortunately I do not like the writing on the dial too many fancy words, a sterile or less cluttered dial would have been a better choice imo
    I agree with you on that. Less text would also help to differentiate it from original sub at least a little.

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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    Decent enough looking watch. I wish them well.
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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    Quote Originally Posted by Radar1 View Post
    Yankee - be interesting to hear Doc's take on these relative to the NTH line. It would appear to me that the level of finishing is visibly higher on the Ginault. That isn't meant to belittle the NTH product line in any way.
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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    Quote Originally Posted by Radar1 View Post
    Yankee - be interesting to hear Doc's take on these relative to the NTH line. It would appear to me that the level of finishing is visibly higher on the Ginault. That isn't meant to belittle the NTH product line in any way.
    The Janis brands, Lew and Huey and NTH, are both straight to the point. The movement is the movement. The crystal is the crystal. There's no hyperbole, no BS, and no 60% off coupon codes for reviews. Comparing the ethos of Ginault with Janis brands is to say the least pretty easy, and I can absolutely tell you which one I would rather buy. And, in fact, which one I will be buying.

    As for the level of finishing comment, based on the creative embellishments on the rest of their post I'm hesitant to make a call either way...... It isn't hard to make photos tell a story that is a substantial deviation from the truth, and it would hardly surprise me to find that the finishing on this one is really just "meh" based on the specs which are equally "meh" once the high proof bovine excretion polish wears off.
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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    "American clone"???? What does this mean?

    I can tell you it doesn't mean it was made in America, because this would be an incredible feat in horological manufacturing and I'm sure the world would like to know. And it would be incredibly expensive. Just a little confusing...
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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

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    Nice try.

    The last two times I spoke up in my own defense in this forum, I was accused of trashing a competitor (I wasn't), and threatening a reviewer (nope, wasn't doing that either).

    No further comment.
    Son? Likely old enough to be your father. There's no "bait" here. If the accusations are empty then don't sweat it so much.
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    Re: CLASSIC SUBMARINER LOVERS - GINAULT OCEAN-ROVER 181070GSLN

    Quote Originally Posted by mike120 View Post
    The Janis brands, Lew and Huey and NTH, are both straight to the point. The movement is the movement. The crystal is the crystal. There's no hyperbole, no BS, and no 60% off coupon codes for reviews. Comparing the ethos of Ginault with Janis brands is to say the least pretty easy, and I can absolutely tell you which one I would rather buy. And, in fact, which one I will be buying.

    As for the level of finishing comment, based on the creative embellishments on the rest of their post I'm hesitant to make a call either way...... It isn't hard to make photos tell a story that is a substantial deviation from the truth, and it would hardly surprise me to find that the finishing on this one is really just "meh" based on the specs which are equally "meh" once the high proof bovine excretion polish wears off.
    The "creative embellishments" don't have any bearing on the finishing level of the watch. Zilch. It's marketing hype and nothing more - and I would add it would also seem that something may have been lost in translation as well. To my eye the Ginault looks a little nicer. What next? I am not entitled to an opinion on the matter? Buy what you want - just don't come on here and tell people what they are and are not entitled to judge. The man put up some pretty magnified, close-in photos and those don't typically lie.

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