I don't even get the NTH thing. Who brought up NTH as a knock against Ginault? What's one got to do with the other? This is just a fabricated misdirection. I'm only writing this because it seems some of you are pointing at me. I'll remind you that I'm the guy who compared an NTH to an OWC and a SMP (three blue divers, which I compared because ... blue), but I did NOT compare the Ginault to an NTH. I compared the Ginault to a 16610. For what it's worth, the Ginault and the NTH Ampion/Amphion Vintage have some small similarity, but they're totally different. The NTH is an homage that is not trying to be a 1:1 replica, whereas the Ginault plainly is trying to be a 1:1, notwithstanding its choice to mashup a variety of Rolex looks. The case is a 16610. I would never tell someone looking for an NTH to buy a Ginault, or someone looking for a Rolex copy to buy an NTH. That would be stupid. So put away the straw-men already.
The movement argument is a closer one. Still, I don't get the pushback. If the justification for the 1300 price tag is an in-house, built in America super clone ETA-based movement, then that's what it should be. It hardly need be said that people pay a premium for in-house movements--whether that money is well-spent is a separate issue. The fact is, in-house movements have cachet, typical ETA clones not only don't have cachet, they are largely forgettable or derided. Ginault wants credit for something better than an asian clone, and my point is that until there's some substantiation for its claims--which dare I say Ginault STILL has not provided--there's no substantive reason for believing the Ginault is running anything better than a typical ETA clone. Don't give me any of this jazz about performance over a week. That's not a track record, not yet anyway. Maybe all this will sort itself out, but in the meantime, there's no good reason to think it's any better than your basic, run-of-the-mill ETA, which you can get in a Steinhart for, what is it now, under $400? Why is that not relevant, and what is wrong with pointing that out to people who come to WUS for information about watches, not just to slobber on digital images of watches that can be seen elsewhere. Nothing wrong with pics, but there's nothing wrong with open, honest debate about the offering, either.