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    SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Hello everyone,

    This is my first post here at Watchuseek and I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself and request some feedback on an idea which is at the pre-prototype phase: Time Speed Indicator - SaStek.

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    ABOUT THE INSPIRATION- TIME SPEED INDICATOR

    I have always loved the aircraft instrument style and simplicity of Bell & Ross watches. That being said, they have most instruments covered in their repertoire and bringing something new to the table would always be a challenge. The name of the watch and its inspiration comes from a machmeter i.e. an "Air Speed Indicator". But rather than just carrying that inspiration over to a watch, I have taken it a step further. The hour hand pointer peeks through the halo created by the minute disc. This ideology is also used on automotive speedometers. Next was viewing the minute disc. In a perfect world they would be scrolling digits similar to a machmeter, however in practice, the viewing window effect is achieved through printing the underside of the crystal.
    I like regulator type watches and had half a mind of avoiding the seconds hand completely at this point to go really minimalistic. However, looking at some aviation photos gave me the inspiration for the second’s hand. The very purpose of having a spiral form on the nose cone of a jet engine is to tell if the engine is rotating. This form lent itself to be a good fit for a seconds disc since it not only showed the watch was working but also gave a reference point as the end of the spiral revolves.
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    THE COLLECTION:

    Following is the collection I have come up with. Through subtle colour and strap variations, the base design lends itself to various styles ranging from sport to quirky elegance. I am open to other suggestions, but hopefully, there should be something for everyone here. I have , Azzurro(blue), Rosso (red), Giallo(yellow), Verde(green) and Arancio(orange).
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    Which one do you prefer?

    TEXTURE OF THE CASE:
    I am thinking about the option of having a blasted steel finish on certain combinations as well. Here is a comparison of the two side by side.What do you think? PVD- Steel or both?

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    DIAL ARRANGEMENT:
    A few people have suggested to remove the word "minutes" off the dial and to have the arrow marker named "Time speed indicator" only. This led to rearrangement of the word "Automatic". I have a quick render for visualization:
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    Do you prefer the above which looks a bit cleaner and organized or the one with minutes written on it?

    TECH SPECS:

    Case Diameter: 44mm
    Dial Diameter: 38mm
    Thickness: 11-12mm
    Lug width: 24mm
    Crown: 7mm diameter x 5mm wide @ 4.00 position.
    Crystal: Printed, Flat Sapphire with A/R coating
    Case: 316L SS. PVD coated or blasted steel finish
    Movement: Miyota 9015
    Case Back: TBC. Possibly non exhibition but engraved.
    Water resistance: 10atm
    Lume: Superluminova TBC

    I had an important question regarding lume and would really appreciate some feedback on it. I think, a lot of the look of the watch comes from using standard Pantone printing colors which give it a bit of pop from the black dial. You can get custom lume colors to print but it doesnt look the same. Now, most of the time when I am looking at the time at night, it is either my cellphone if I want the exact time or it is a case of "what time is it approximately" as in " 10 to 10 or 5 to 9" etc.. Without compromising on the colors of the dial, I was thinking of the hour hand having lume as well as the hour markings divided in spacing of 10 minutes(as seen in the photos) which would turn the watch into a sort of regulator type of a design at night. Agreed, not having 100% functionality but not loosing it all as well in the name of design. What would be your opinion on it?

    Quick video on working of the watch. Please excuse the speed of the seconds hand, the software did not allow me to put the correct speed ratios.

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    THE PROJECT AND MYSELF:
    My name is Saket Sharma. I am an automotive engineer in the UK, designing chassis components for some of the most prominent German and British car manufacturers. In addition to this, I am also an Alfa Romeo owner/fanatic(hence the Italian watch names ), gamer and a computer case modder.
    I tend to like things that have a unique edge to it, something that “breaks the meta” and has never been seen before. Currently I am at the pre-prototype phase of this watch and would like it to be as close as possible to production intent. Your feedback would help achieve that goal.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this thread. I would really appreciate if you could provide some feedback on the design or any thoughts/comments that I may have missed out.

    More details of the project to follow soon.

    You can follow the project on facebook as well:

    www.facebook.com/sastek.watches

    Regards
    SaStek.






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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Welcome Satek!
    That's a very cool and original watch you have created. Kudos!
    My only $0.02 is to approach it a bit 'less is more.' Personally, I would like it more without the curved arrow and "time speed indicator" words. And maybe if it were <44mm.
    But regardless, you've caught my interest!

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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Quote Originally Posted by Djk949 View Post
    Welcome Satek!
    That's a very cool and original watch you have created. Kudos!
    My only $0.02 is to approach it a bit 'less is more.' Personally, I would like it more without the curved arrow and "time speed indicator" words. And maybe if it were <44mm.
    But regardless, you've caught my interest!
    Thanks DJk949..
    The arrow is a subtle gesture to the mind what direction to think in. Without the traditional 2 hand design, i think the viewer needs to know how to approach viewing the watch. That being said, muscle memory would eventually kick in. That was the reasoning behind it + a bit of aesthetics.
    Packaging has already been quite tough on this. Anything less than 44mm and I would have to make compromises on the dial.

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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Looks good, maybe the rotating turbine nose cone spiral thingy is a little bit too much for me but one man's food is another's poison... and vice versa. And I generally agree with the less text the better principle, though for me the first version looked better with the longer text along the arrow's arc. But definitely interesting design and looks more usable than some of the crazier B&R instrument "hommages". The outer full hour ring makes it a usable single-handed watch even without the minutes. And I'm obsessed with single-handed watches... now where's my medication?

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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Quote Originally Posted by G. I. View Post
    Looks good, maybe the rotating turbine nose cone spiral thingy is a little bit too much for me but one man's food is another's poison... and vice versa. And I generally agree with the less text the better principle, though for me the first version looked better with the longer text along the arrow's arc. But definitely interesting design and looks more usable than some of the crazier B&R instrument "hommages". The outer full hour ring makes it a usable single-handed watch even without the minutes. And I'm obsessed with single-handed watches... now where's my medication?
    Thanks GI. It was a choice between going all in with the concept and have a turbine spinner or have standard second hand. I choose the former :)

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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Cool Stuff. I like it. The h/m/s indicators are totally different to the classical, without beeing a real complication. Very smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEPA View Post
    Cool Stuff. I like it. The h/m/s indicators are totally different to the classical, without beeing a real complication. Very smart
    Thanks DEPA

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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Hello Chaps!

    Quick update to showcase an engraved caseback design I have been working on. What do you think? Good enough to go against an exhibition case back?

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    Also planning to have a couple of polls up for voting on this thread.

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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Here's an idea for you (although probably a bit too specialist for the first release):

    How about a green finish for the case such as is often seen on vintage Wild-Heerbrugg instruments?



    That's the kind of casing that I imagine for such a heavy-duty precision instrument as your design suggests, but I've never seen this finish used on a watch.
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    Re: SaStek- Time Speed Indicator- PrePrototype feedback

    Hi Chascomm.. Interesting idea.. Yes the "hammer paint" would be the right thing for a precision instrument although it might make the watch look a bit too rugged/less "finished" in a way.. Plus, from what i know, this finish is a bit prone to chipping which could be the reason it is not widely used on a watch. But, definitely cool.. i will keep my eye out for some inspiration from it.

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