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    Does this Tutima look right to you?

    I saw this watch for sale, but I am not sure why it says "Military" rather than "Tutima" over the date marker. Any comments? Or am I just getting paranoid in my old age? Or both? Too many questions?

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    Re: Does this Tutima look right to you?

    Doesn´t look like a Tutima to me, I´d say Orfina or Arctos !

    Orfina/Porsche Design manufactured the first automatic watch used by the Bundeswehr. There have been also watches with the well-sounding Porsche-Design brand name on the dial.

    Interesting: http://www.knirim.de/xbw5100.pdf
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    Re: Does this Tutima look right to you?

    This any help?

    There is something like it here, (I think)


    http://www.lesmala.net/jean-michel/lemania/index3.htm

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    Re: Does this Tutima look right to you?

    If it is indeed an Orfina or an Arctos (though I think the Arctos has small minute numbers next to the indices, IIRC), it will be an issued piece - more valuable - and have appropriate engraved markings on the back.

    You can try contacting member "tgarn" via PM ... he knows a lot about these watches.
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    Re: Does this Tutima look right to you?

    Hi and thanks for your comments. It is supposed to be a Tutima and this is the photo supplied of the back of the watch. Hmmm, maybe if it is causing confusion among you German watch aficionados I should stay away.


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    Re: Does this Tutima look right to you?

    It looks like a Tutima to me. They're the only ones who use the integral pushers like that, and they did produce them with only the word 'military' above the dial.

    If I remember correctly, someone sent a serial number to the company via email recently, and got a reply confirming the authenticity of the watch.

    My Tutima has the first 3 numbers as the model number - 750xxx, but it is a TL, so that SN may be legit. I'd try asking Tutima (in Germany - not their reps in the US).
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    Re: Does this Tutima look right to you?

    Looks good to me, particularly after seeing the unmistakable caseback.
    I recall on an old thread (before the crash) that there were indeed some produced with "Military" rather than "Tutima" on the dial.

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    These are my emails from Tutima

    I am one of the board members that have sent emails to Tutima to verify the watch that Jeremy (JerOK) is referring to.

    Here is the email I've received from Tutima after I have sent my serial no. to them "[email protected]":
    Dear Mr. Yau,

    We are glad to know you own a Tutima Military Chronograph.

    We have supplied this watch to the German Air Force. Sorry to say that we do not have any further details about this watch.

    With best regards
    Tutima Uhrenfabrik GmbH

    Imke Thiele




    2nd response after I was asking for a production date:
    Dear Mr. Yau,

    We have supplied these BUND Chronographs continuously to the German Air
    Force since 1985 in large quantities. Your watch has been produced in
    1985. The original BUND watches carry the NATO no.

    With best regards
    Imke Thiele


    It took them about 1 month to response to my email. Be patient.

    By the way, there are at least 2 more members that have sent similiar emails to Tutima to get confirmation. One is Steve (XTrooper) but he has sold his Tutima since.

    There are some differences that I can see between yours and my watch. . . my watch said "SWISS MOVT'" at the bottom of the dial and it has no references of Tutima anywhere on the watch including the case back (that's was one of the reason why I sent emails to Tutima in the first place). My watch's case back only says "BUND", bund part number starts with 6645-12-xxx-xxxx and a serial number. I've sent the serial no. to Tutima to have my watch verified.

    I assume the one listed is a civilian version instead of issued.

    Good luck.

    Tommy
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    Re: These are my emails from Tutima

    It looks like a Tutima caseback, but not from an issued watch


    Quote Originally Posted by Backfill
    Hmmm, maybe if it is causing confusion among you German watch aficionados I should stay away.
    On the contrary.
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    Re: Does this Tutima look right to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Backfill
    I saw this watch for sale, but I am not sure why it says "Military" rather than "Tutima" over the date marker. Any comments? Or am I just getting paranoid in my old age? Or both? Too many questions?

    cheers,
    Phil
    Hi Phil,

    Only Tutima uses flat chrono pushers so this is a genuine Tutima model 798.

    But the dial and the back are from different watches.

    The dial is the military type, the back is from a civilian version.

    Having a civilian back has its advantages. The watch will be serviced by
    any official Tutima dealer. The military ones will not.

    Best regards

    Thomas

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